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Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This?
#5289879 - 02/11/06 08:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fill a 30 gallon polyethylene trash bag with 30% Acetylene & 70% Oxygen. Seal it with electrical tape or a tie-wrap. Now you have a HIGHLY EXPLOSIVE balloon. There are hundreds of ways to detonate it. One of my favorites is to fire bottle rockets at it from 150 feet away. It's damn hard to hit it, but when you do, BOOOOOOM!! A large fireball and an earth shaking BOOM. Sets car alarms off up to 1000 yards away.
FUN TIMES!
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5289898 - 02/11/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've never done it, but now that you brought it up I really want to try.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Konnrade]
#5289911 - 02/11/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just be VERY careful. I've done it MANY times, but the thought of one of those exploding while I'm within 20 feet of it scares the fuck outa me.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5289936 - 02/11/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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That sounds really, really dangerous.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: CherryBom]
#5289940 - 02/11/06 08:19 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm going to try this out and become the Shroomery's Trash Bag Bomb Expert.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: CherryBom]
#5289958 - 02/11/06 08:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Working with any type of explosives is really, really dangerous, but with the proper precautions taken, it can be done quite successfully and harmlessly.
Take my word for it, it's hella fun, super-loud and quite addictive. I love to feel the compression of the blast and feel the ground shake.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Burke Dennings]
#5289962 - 02/11/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Too late.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: CherryBom]
#5289964 - 02/11/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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CherryBom said: That sounds really, really dangerous.
And fun!
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5289968 - 02/11/06 08:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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e-chode, ill consider you an expert if you do it while your smoking.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: PDU]
#5289977 - 02/11/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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PDU said: e-chode, ill consider you an expert if you do it while your smoking.
I'll give him an official certificate, either of expertise, or death.
Go for it, e-chode.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5289994 - 02/11/06 08:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Do I get a special award if I do it while smoking AND huffing a balloon?
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Burke Dennings]
#5290014 - 02/11/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sure. I'll put a gold star on the cert'.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5290083 - 02/11/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: minesstudent]
#5290120 - 02/11/06 09:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Man, some people are REALLY fuckin' STUPID. Talk about taking a RISK, jeez!
I GUARANTEE there was more Oxygen than Acetylene in that VERY large balloon.
Acetylene alone would just make a quiet, slow-buning, deep orange fireball with lots of soot.
I'd also be willing to bet that this fool was smoking while driving and a cigarette cinder hit that balloon.
Anyway, that shows you what I mean by "EXTREMELY EXPLOSIVE". I'm surprised they survived.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5290135 - 02/11/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Indeed. At best, they got a few busted eardrums outta the deal.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5290148 - 02/11/06 09:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i must admit, explosives are addicting. I used to make dry ice bombs all the time
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: _SE]
#5290157 - 02/11/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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dr_SE said: i must admit, explosives are addicting. I used to make dry ice bombs all the time
Please refresh my memory.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5290170 - 02/11/06 09:44 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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TripMeister said:
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dr_SE said: i must admit, explosives are addicting. I used to make dry ice bombs all the time
Please refresh my memory.
Its where you take a 2 liter (preferably a 3 liter) and put about an inch and a half of dry ice in the bottom, fill with about3 cups of water and twist on the lid. their are pretty loud (equivalent to a sparkler bomb) but with no flame following the explosion
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5290183 - 02/11/06 09:47 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Materials
-1 plastic bottle with screw on lid(YOU MUST HAVE THE LID!(size doesnt matter...the bigger the better though). Get this anywhere.
-Water. Get this from the sink.
-Dry Ice. If you have an icecream man ever go by your house ask him if you can have a chunk of Dry Ice....if he asks say you guys are having a picknick and need it for cooling of Hamburger or something. They usually will give it.
Assembly
Take your Plasic bottle and fill it up about a quarter the way with water (thats how i like to do em) the less water the more time but the louder, you can put more or less in though...up to you. Get the dry ice slide a couple of into the bottle (as long as they can fit in the bottle they will be big enough) then Immediatly put on your lid (SCREW IT ON TIGHT. Throw it somewhere or get far away from it (due to plastic shrapenal) and wait 4 or 5 mins (DO NOT GO LOOKING FOR IT IF IT DOESNT GO OFF!) and BOOM it is really loud! i mean loud. something i like to do once and a while is...to throw one really big one in a sewer at 1:00am, and then another like a minute after i throw it then another like 1 min after i throw it.... then In succesion they go BOOM, BOOM, BOOM! its tight.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: _SE]
#5290195 - 02/11/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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OHHH yes, I remember now.
And the sewer idea, very cool, blissedout.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: blissedout]
#5290204 - 02/11/06 09:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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you can also acquire your dry ice as at most local grocery stores such as Albertsons, Safeway, and even some Wal-Marts
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: _SE]
#5291070 - 02/12/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I use to make bombs with Muratic acid and Baking soda... get some PVC just big ehoungh for a babyfood jar to slide down it, some high concentration HCl or Sulfuric acid drain cleaner, box of baking soda, babyfood jar, some end caps for the pipe, some pvc cement, and a nice sharp rock that will just fit in the pipe.
Cut about a 10" section of pipe and glue on 1 cap. Mark that cap with a marker or something. Jam the rock down in the bottom. Fill babyfood jar with acid and put on the cap. Slide this in the pipe gently against the rock. Dump in enough baking soda to allow for the jar to slide a couple inches, you don't want it packed. Glue on the other cap.
Now, when your ready to blow something up, just grab the unmarked end of the pipe and smack the marked end on the ground a few times real hard to break that babyfood jar against the rock. Throw it and get the hell away. DO NOT GO CHECK ON IT as it may take a few minutes to go BOOM, or it may only take a FEW SECONDS.... so be careful... this would easily take your arm off, if not kill ya.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: mediman0078]
#5291280 - 02/12/06 12:13 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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just don't blow up mailboxes with the dry ice bombs...you can get into trouble doing that
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TODAY]
#5291282 - 02/12/06 12:16 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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i've seen a few mailbox's go up due to dry ice bombs. but yes, you can get in a lot of trouble. and as far as the pvc bomb goes. i don't know if i would feel comfortable smacking the tube on the ground a couple times to break the baby food jar. But all-n-all it sounds like fun.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: _SE]
#5291377 - 02/12/06 12:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's actually an improvised bomb normally done with steel pipe and end caps, but that's a bit too big of a boom for my tastes. A guy who was in the EOD (explosive Ordinance Disposal) unit taught me how to make those when I was in the Gulf... He said with steel pipe, it'll shread a car... blow the doors off kinda shread.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: mediman0078]
#5291385 - 02/12/06 12:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm going to have to try this the fuck out
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: lysergicide]
#5291394 - 02/12/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I aree, i don't mind blowing shit up as long as i don't have to worry that i don't know if i am far enough away or not, or if shrapnel is coming my way
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: _SE]
#5291422 - 02/12/06 01:12 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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70% Potassium Perchlorate 30% German Dark Aluminum Powder
Makes some REAL M-80's.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Cubieman420]
#5291760 - 02/12/06 03:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Have you ever lit a cottonball and watched it burn into nothing? Pretty fast yeah. But there is a solution you can soak cotton balls into that makes the burn rate of cotton balls like 100 times faster. Maybe someone could remind me of the solution because its been so long I have forgotten 
I remember doing it all kinds in highschool though because its so fun to make little trails of cotton balls and light it up. It looks like a fireball inching its way along the trails.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: FreedomFight]
#5291889 - 02/12/06 04:00 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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gun cotton, right? Isn't that nitro? I can't remember.... used to be used in cannons, i think....
BTW, there's definently shrapnel with the one I told ya... be careful if you're as dumb as I am and try to make one....
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: mediman0078]
#5291895 - 02/12/06 04:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've also made a couple tennis ball bombs, but they don't explode, the just burst open and you have like 250 flamming match heads flying wherever you throw it. is it supposed to explode, or is it just supposed throw fire?
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Cubieman420]
#5292301 - 02/12/06 06:34 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cubieman420 said: 70% Potassium Perchlorate 30% German Dark Aluminum Powder
Makes some REAL M-80's.
Yeah, the problem is that United Nuclear doesn't like to allow one person to buy both of those things from them. They tend to deny orders they think are for making m-80's.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Konnrade]
#5294117 - 02/13/06 09:23 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5294515 - 02/13/06 11:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thats a reasonably nifty incendiary device. From my little bit of knowledge (insert grin here), I'll tell ya how I'd have modified it.
First, I like to make things that go BANG when I say so, I don't like shooting bottle rockets at them. Initiators, especially for flammable gasses and other low order explosives, are pretty easy to rig up. Go to your local hobby store and get some squibs for setting off model rocket engines. These fire off of a regular battery (or maybe a 9V?) and just produce a little spark, which is all that you need for your "application".
Second, you'd be better off using a primary charge to vaporize an amount of flammable solvent, rather than dealing with a volume of expanded gasses. Gasoline is what most people use for this (by "Most people", I mean people that are into things that go bang in the night), but I think that a mix of gasoline and 91% rubbing alcohol is the best for straight fireball performance. You could try rupture a tank of acetelyne, but thats a costly tank you'd be destroying and you'd have to use a higher order explosive.
My main fun-fireball-bomb is just a PVC pipe with a squib in it and black powder. Seal all of the ends VERY good with plumbers dope, then coat all openings with a strong epoxy, a few good thick layers thereof. Put this into a gallon milk jug filled with your gasoline/rubbing alcohol mixture, run about 40` of line out to it and run a charge to the squib. KA blooey 
Have fun, be safe.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: mediman0078]
#5294556 - 02/13/06 12:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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mediman0078 said: gun cotton, right? Isn't that nitro? I can't remember....
nitrocelulose, flash paper and gun cotton are basicly the same, I made something similar but with a glycerine base, managed to get me in lots of trouble with the police and school system.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: MisterMyco]
#5295663 - 02/13/06 04:18 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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MisterMyco said: Thats a reasonably nifty incendiary device. From my little bit of knowledge (insert grin here), I'll tell ya how I'd have modified it.
First, I like to make things that go BANG when I say so, I don't like shooting bottle rockets at them. Initiators, especially for flammable gasses and other low order explosives, are pretty easy to rig up. Go to your local hobby store and get some squibs for setting off model rocket engines. These fire off of a regular battery (or maybe a 9V?) and just produce a little spark, which is all that you need for your "application".
As I said, "There are hundreds of ways to detonate it.". I USUALLY use 18ga stranded lamp cord or speaker wire. Just short the end that's inside the bag with a SINGLE strand, making a "filament" and connect the other end to a car battery. There's a one-second delay before the BOOM!!!, which I'll guarantee you is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY louder and more potent than your gasoline/alcohol mix.
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MisterMyco said:run about 40` of line out to it and run a charge to the squib. KA blooey 
Have fun, be safe.
This is a conflicting statement. 40' of line would put you way too close to my trash bag bomb to be even in the vacinity of being "safe". (provng that the bag of expanded gasses is far more potent than the mixtures you've done).
The trash bag bomb is very simple to prepare and way cheap to make. All you need is a bag and access to a cutting torch.
TRY IT, YOU'LL BE QUITE IMPRESSED.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5295720 - 02/13/06 04:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah, in some cases 40' definitely isn't enough
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5295796 - 02/13/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't play with incendiaries, usually. Having friends that have blasters permits allow me to do more than tennis ball bombs :P
ANNM is the shit, google "annm.pdf" Thats something you need more than 40` for.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: MisterMyco]
#5297599 - 02/13/06 11:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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MisterMyco said: I don't play with incendiaries, usually. Having friends that have blasters permits allow me to do more than tennis ball bombs :P
ANNM is the shit, google "annm.pdf" Thats something you need more than 40` for.
I'd rather avoid being arrested by the NSA.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Konnrade]
#5298155 - 02/14/06 05:51 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Please be very careful. As many of you know, I used to work in an explosives research lab testing experimental explosives for the US military. I have seen the results of accidental detonations, and it isn't pretty.
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Working with any type of explosives is really, really dangerous, but with the proper precautions taken, it can be done quite successfully and harmlessly.
I disagree with the "quite ... harmlessly" part. Again, I have seen too many accidents. For example, using your own post:
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Fill a 30 gallon polyethylene trash bag with 30% Acetylene & 70% Oxygen.
I noticed you are using polyethylene trash bags. Polyethylene has a tremendous ability to create static electricity. How, exactly, are you preventing a spontaneous detonation due to static discharge? The simple action of the gas expanding the plastic bag is enough to generate the static charge needed to initiate a detonation. Acetylene requires only 0.019 millijoules of energy to initiate detonation.
You didn't mention how you are getting your gasses, but I assume you are getting them from bottles rather than producing them yourself. If so, the gasses are dry and can create triboelectric static discharges. Tribo-electricity is created by the motion of atoms in dry, non-conductive gasses. Again, you can get a detonation while filling a container, initiated by static discharge generated by the gasses themselves.
You also failed to mention that acetylene and oxygen mixtures are slightly photosensitive. Detonation can result from exposure to sunlight. Acetylene will form explosive acetylide compounds when exposed to silver, copper, mercury, or other active metals or their salts. It also reacts violently with fluorine and other halogens. Acetylene gas is thermodynamically unstable and sensitive to both shock and pressure. Both container size and shape have been shown to alter its sensitivity.
Finally, how are you preventing acetylene and oxygen from escaping into the room while you are filling the bag? You have good ventilation? All of your fan motors are brushless, yes? Brushed fan motors generate sparks which can detonate gas that has accumulated in the room. Things such as light switches and thermostats also generate sparks when switching, leading to the same risk. Stove or hot water heater pilot lights are yet another concern. Static buildup generated as you walk across the carpet to move your explosive bag is enough to accidentally detonate your mix.
Personally, I value my fingers, hands, arms, eyes, ears, and life too much to be playing with this kind of stuff. You can pretend that you are being safe all that you like, but the dangers are real and difficult to mitigate.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: lysergicide]
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
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TripMeister said: I love to feel the compression of the blast and feel the ground shake.
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One of my favorites is to fire bottle rockets at it from 150 feet away. It's damn hard to hit it, but when you do, BOOOOOOM!! A large fireball and an
You can feel compresion and the ground shake from 150 feet away?
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: gregorio]
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You can feel compresion and the ground shake from 150 feet away?
That sounds pretty serious.
Yes, if mixed in proper proportion, you certainly can get one HELL of a potent BOOM. Oxygen is k3y.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss:
You certainly are wise and very well versed, but obviously inexperienced with actually doing this or being present when it's being done. I'd be willing to bet you've never handled a cutting torch in a shop environment either.
In THEORY, I suppose it MAY be possible for what you say can happen to actually happen, but you'd have a much better chance at being struck by lightning or solely winning a $300,000,000.00 lottery.
Having done this over 150 times without even a hint of a chance of a mishap, I'm QUITE confident that my methods are VERY SAFE.
Finally, if you value your well-being so dearly, I suggest you stay out of any motor vehicle at all times because you'll have a far better chance at being injured riding in or driving one than you would making and detonating a trash bag bomb with my methods.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
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> but obviously inexperienced with actually doing this or being present when it's being done
Incorrect. I blew out the windows in my high school with a garbage bag full of acetelyne/oxygen in a stairwell. I had a very active childhood...
> I'd be willing to bet you've never handled a cutting torch in a shop environment either.
You would be wrong. I spent a semester working in a machine shop for the experience. I spent most of my time making titanium nozzles, not using a cutting torch. However, I think I was only twelve when my Grandfather taught me how to use his cutting torch and tig welder.
> Having done this over 150 times without even a hint of a chance of a mishap
Only takes one mishap to kill... static electricity is going to be your biggest concern... as I said, I have seen too many accidents (both in training and a few first hand) to have such a lackadaisical attitude.
> I'm QUITE confident that my methods are VERY SAFE.
*sigh* Well, at least nobody can claim that I didn't try... The explosives industry is full of accident reports made about people that were exremly confident in their safety methods.
> Finally, if you value your well-being so dearly
It isn't me that I am worried about, but rather the other people reading your post thinking that they are safe doing something that can be extremly dangerous. You can play 150 holes of golf during a lightning storm and never get elecrocuted... but that doesn't mean it is safe... sooner or later, you are going to get bit.
Don't take my word for it... direct from the rec.pyrotechnics FAQ:
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Pyrotechnics and explosives are not safe - factories have been destroyed in the past, and they have access to the best materials and equipment, and take the most stringent safety precautions. Some people on the net have also been injured by accidents, and many of them had years of experience and took extremely comprehensive safety measures.
I can't stress this enough... I have seen experts in the explosives field that have done the same thing year after year get hurt in accidents for no apparent reason. Nothing changed, but for some reason whatever they were working on detonated... this time... when it had not time and time again in the past.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Seuss]
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Yep. You are absolutely correct.
Realize this though... Pretty much everything you do in life that's exciting and fun involves a certain amount of risk.
ie: Bungy jumping, roller coasters, water skiing, downhill racing or skiing, snowbarding, MOTORCYCLE RIDING... I could go on and on and on with a list of things that people love to do that can get them mamed or killed by some freak accident. This is simply another one.
Have a nice day.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss is right, static electricity is a major hazard. That likely blew up the car in the news article, static between the balloon and synthetic upholstery of the car seat.
The reason why acetylene-oxygen mixtures explode particularly loud is because Acetylene, even without oxygen, can detonate (rather than deflagrate) making the flame shoot at km/sec instead of m/sec velocities.
Basically such a bag is a true Fuel Air Explosive (like the MOAB weapon of mass destruction) meaning a detonating gas mixture.
Your bags will, like you said, explode with a large concussion effect. Eardrums, like windowpanes, are very sensitive to a shove like that and torn eardrums = stone deaf.
If it explodes close to you you can expect: 1..torn eardrums (deaf) 2..scorched lungs (respirator) It will likely not set you on fire but you will get showered by droplets of boiling plastic.
Dry ice bombs. The dry ice is *very* cold. This will cause the plastic to freeze and may turn it into a blast of razorsharp shards. This does happen. Also they may not go off, causing the high pressure bottle to just lie there and explode when touched. If you are going to insist on doing Dry Ice bombs you *must* bring a BB gun to set off any bottles that might stall in this way. Concussive (eardrum) blast just like Tripmeister's bags.
Muriatic acid. Not just a concussive blast, but you get the privilege of being doused in muriatic acid. Your eyes (blindness) and ears (deafness) are most at risk.
Flash powder. Flash powder you REALLY shouldn't mess with. That stuff can go off on the slightest provocation and when it does, it will cause major injury. Have you ever blown hard at a handful of foamy lather? Flsashpowder will blast your flesh apart like you blow at lather. On top of that flashpowder produces a tremendous report and because it is thermobaric it easily scorches and burns you. To top it off even small quantities of it are self-confining, meaning they explode in the open air.
Making fireworks is an art and it requires extensive knowledge and skill to prevent accidents. Most stuff on the internet is absolute rubbish presented by so-called experts.
It is amazingly easy to get into dangerous territory when you start playing with firework-type things
If you want to learn something useful about fireworks, buy the book:
"Fireworks, the art, science and technique" by Takeo Shimizu
which will teach you all the basic skills and knowledge to start off on a pyrotechnic hobby. Mind you: sept 11 took alot of the fun out of it, a harmless rocketeer might well be convicted of terrorism.
Watch out with these homemade things, they often get ugly quite fast. Don't *ever* use steel confinement and remember the hand grenade drill axiom: "if you can see the grenade, the grenade can see you"
If you however make decent firework bangers with paper & starch glue and set these off under very safe conditions in places where such doesnt disturb others then you have my blessing  As a young teen I was a boomer myself and I can vouch for the fact that half an ounce of simple sugar/saltpeter composition in a strong paper tube can fulfill all your loudness needs and be reasonably safe to handle.
Attached is my favorite dumbass fireworks accident. It isn't gory or disgusting, rather fun actually, but you'll need to watch with the sound cranked up LOUD. The kid was OK, i'm told.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Seuss is right, static electricity is a major hazard. That likely blew up the car in the news article, static between the balloon and synthetic upholstery of the car seat.
That's one possibility, I suppose. The static build/discharge theory is pure speculation, but a rubber balloon is 100 times more succeptable to creating static than a polyethylene bag.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: The reason why acetylene-oxygen mixtures explode particularly loud is because Acetylene, even without oxygen, can detonate (rather than deflagrate) making the flame shoot at km/sec instead of m/sec velocities.
I think you have that ass-backward. Without being mixed with oxygen or air, acetylene burns MUCH slower, not faster. In fact, with my mixture, it's not a flame that you see at all. It's more of a flash. If you reverse the quantities, (70% acetylene, 30% oxygen) you get a very visible and much quieter explosion. It produces a slow-burning orange ball of flame.
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Your bags will, like you said, explode with a large concussion effect. Eardrums, like windowpanes, are very sensitive to a shove like that and torn eardrums = stone deaf.
If it explodes close to you you can expect: 1..torn eardrums (deaf) 2..scorched lungs (respirator) It will likely not set you on fire but you will get showered by droplets of boiling plastic.
Torn eardrums, though painful and deafening are not permanently damaged. They heal. The deafness is only temporary.
Scorched lungs?? Highly doubtful, unless you're taking a deep breath right when the explosion occurs within an inch or two of your face.
Droplets of boiling plastic??? Dude, the bag disintegrates into vapor leaving only the sealed end and no trace of the rest of it anywhere to be found in the tinyest of specs.
I just love how people like to speculate the outcome of something they've never witnessed in person. It's hilarious.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Seuss]
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/me awards seuss 10 points for using the word lackadaisical is a thread on the shroomery
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: automan]
#5298550 - 02/14/06 09:54 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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And how many points do I get for the use of absolute logic?
That's extremely rare on this board. Especially in this forum. (and OTD)

Damn luthiers coming around handing out random points like strips of blotter to a broke-ass hippie with a couple of scratched frets and busted G string. 
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
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I think you have that ass-backward. Without being mixed with oxygen or air, acetylene burns MUCH slower, not faster.
Thats deflagration. It doesn't progress to detonation because there is no sudden energy pulse. Acetylene is provided as a gas dissolved in a solvent such as acetone (rather than compressed to a liquid) because such a cilinder would blow up the entire workshop if it fell over.
Acetylene is an endothermic compound which is explosive by itself, so a bag full of acetylene can explode as hard or harder as an oxygen mix, it just won't do that most of the time if a flame is applied.
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In fact, with my mixture, it's not a flame that you see at all. It's more of a flash.
That's because of the velocity. A balanced O2/C2H2 gas mixture accellerates very rapidly into a high-order detonation, much faster than lets say methane/oxygen.
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Torn eardrums, though painful and deafening are not permanently damaged. They heal. The deafness is only temporary.
that makes it ok?
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Scorched lungs?? Highly doubtful, unless you're taking a deep breath right when the explosion occurs within an inch or two of your face.
Gasping for breath is the thing you immediately do after getting the wind knocked out of you by a concussive blast - by reflex.
The area where the temperature is several hundred degrees is several times bigger than the bag, and it's exploding while you're handling it.
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Droplets of boiling plastic??? Dude, the bag disintegrates into vapor leaving only the sealed end and no trace of the rest of it anywhere to be found in the tinyest of specs.
The droplets disintegrate in flight. If you are *at* the place where it goes off you'll get sandblasted by boiling plastic because they disintegrate over time and distance, even if that's a couple of miliseconds and a couple of feet.
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I just love how people like to speculate the outcome of something they've never witnessed in person. It's hilarious.
I have witnessed acetylene/oxygen bags. Seuss has witnessed them. So who's speculating. There is a difference between obsewrving a phenomenon and knowing the science involved.
You can't be eyewitness to milisecond events, but if you know the science behind it you are privy to details beyond the spectacular bang and once you realize what really happens in even a small explosion you are filled with awe and respect for the phenomenon, resulting in you recognising the dangers where others see mere fun.
Plastic bags of acetylene/oxygen mixture can go off at any time, especially when they are handled.
Once the reaction propagates by shock rather than heat the dangers go through the roof.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Asante]
#5298668 - 02/14/06 10:38 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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"You'll shoot yer eye out, kid..."

I wouldn't go claiming that any of this stuff is "safe". Just don't be dumb and blow yourself up. You all should know there's inherent danger anytime you mess around with this kinda stuff... that's a given.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Asante]
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So, could you like fill up a basketball with that mixture and throw it at stuff?
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Asante]
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Oh, man, I'm tired of arguing with you. I already agreed that Seuss was absolutely correct.
You, Wiccan, are not completely correct. You are conflagrating and composing and exaggerating and assuming and simply fabricating.
Stop already.
I repeat:
Pretty much everything you do in life that's exciting and fun involves a certain amount of risk.
ie: Bungee jumping, roller coasters, water skiing, downhill racing or skiing, snowboarding, MOTORCYCLE RIDING... I could go on and on and on with a list of things that people love to do that can get them maimed or killed by some freak accident. This is simply another one.
Have a nice day.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5298751 - 02/14/06 11:00 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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What about my basketball idea?
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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You could be the first to blow off your arm with a basketball!! DO IT DO IT DO IT! You'll be famous...... well, here at least.... 
You'd need more of a way to detonate the ball than just tossing it.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: mediman0078]
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Well if it detonates from shock.. toss it at a cop car and see what happens.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Microcosmatrix]
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Microcosmatrix said: So, could you like fill up a basketball with that mixture and throw it at stuff?
Well, first of all, it would be very difficult to fill a basketball with those gases without elaborate modification to hoses to adapt a needle.
Second, it would be impossible to get enough of the gasses into a basketball to make the resulting explosion worthwhile.
Third, the only ways to detonate it would be to use a powerful squib or toss the basketball into a fire.
Lastly, why the hell would you want to "throw it at stuff'? What would that accomplish that a basketball full of air wouldn't?
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5298788 - 02/14/06 11:14 AM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was just thinking of creating a "people's army" of people with acetylene basketballs, that's all.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Asante]
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The static build/discharge theory is pure speculation, but a rubber balloon is 100 times more succeptable to creating static than a polyethylene bag.
Sorry, but it is not pure speculation, it is a hard fact. I posted the amount of energy needed to initiate a detonation in the gas mixture mentioned. This small bit of energy is easily obtainable from static electricity. Polyethylene is famous for generating static charges. I was not posting speculation, but facts. If you need sources, I can provide those as well. Most balloons are made from neoprene or latex, neither of which generate near the static charge that polyethylene does.
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I think you have that ass-backward. Without being mixed with oxygen or air, acetylene burns MUCH slower, not faster.
Nope, you have it ass-backwards and WS was correct. There is a large difference between detonation and deflagration. Gun powder deflagrates while dynamite detonates. Pure acetylene will detonate without any oxygen present at all, under certain conditions. I outlined these conditions in my previous post. A detonation is much more powerful than a deflagration, and by definition, propagates much faster... faster than the speed of sound in the substance decomposing... again, by definition. When you see the large fireball... that is the acetylene deflagrating. When you see a bright flash and a loud crack, that is the acetylene detonating. Changes in gas composition, container size, and pressure will influence the chance of a slow burn versus a fast detonation.
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Torn eardrums, though painful and deafening are not permanently damaged. They heal. The deafness is only temporary.
Again, incorrect. Although most people do recover completely from a perforated eardrum, both the size of the tear and the location of the tear can cause permanent hearing impairment.
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Acetylene is provided as a gas dissolved in a solvent such as acetone (rather than compressed to a liquid) because such a cilinder would blow up the entire workshop if it fell over.
Almost correct... the tank wouldn't need to fall over... acetylene over 30 psi can spontaneously detonate.
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especially when they are handled.
The most dangerous time is when he is filling the bag... but the nature of the materials involved would allow for a detonation to occur at any time the bag is being handled... and possibly even when not being handled, though that would be unlikely.
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Realize this though... Pretty much everything you do in life that's exciting and fun involves a certain amount of risk.
Yes, and I have done my share of extreme activities... technical rock climbing, SCUBA diving, spelunking, etc... but the difference is that I don't try to convince people that these activities are, in your words, "VERY SAFE". People die all the time doing these activities. People die all the time working with explosives. Although I love the art and science of pyrotechnics, I certainly do not lie to myself about the dangers. I know that every time I mix up a new batch of stars, that I may end up killing myself, no matter how safe I am.
Anyway... I'm done with the warnings... I have been working with explosives and pyrotechnics for more than fifteen years... I have worked in an explosives research lab, testing explosives for the US military... If you can name it, I probably tested it, and there is a good chance that I have manufactured it as well... I still have all my fingers, though many of those that I have worked with do not. If you think I am over the top, go post your acetylene bag experiences on rec.pyrotechnics and see what the professionals have to say about it...
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
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You, Wiccan, are not completely correct. You are conflagrating and composing and exaggerating and assuming and simply fabricating. Stop already.
way to deal with that!
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Seuss]
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The speculation I was referring to was when you said static was the likely cause of that balloon in the car going boom. Pure speculation there. No one will ever know for sure exactly what caused it to blow.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
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The speculation I was referring to was when you said static was the likely cause of that balloon in the car going boom. Pure speculation there. No one will ever know for sure exactly what caused it to blow.
True, that part is speculation, but it wasn't intended as anything but that and clearly marked as such:
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static electricity is a major hazard. That likely blew up the car in the news article, static between the balloon and synthetic upholstery of the car seat.
Many things could've, but static electricity is one of the major dangers of this method so its realistic to assume it was that.
If you can rig your acetylene bags in a way that nobody is near them when they fill and sit until you fire them you've eliminated most hazards. Perhaps you could fill the bag with oxygen first and then supply the required acetylene in the field through a long thin hose from firing distance. That way you are far away all the while and mostly out of harm's way. Its not completely safe but it beats the hands on approach.
If you want to do it the usual way then use goggles & quality earplugs at the very least when you are filling and handling the bag. You're in a shitload of trouble when the bag blows and you're near (its quite a blast) and your eyes and especially ears are most in danger. When you're at a safe distance you can remove em.
I don't know how big your thrashbags are but you said something about it setting off car alarms over a distance and you enjoying the concussion from afar, and that alone says enough about the size of your blasts.
Be careful man, we don't want to come up one Shroomerite short at the evening headcount
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: Asante]
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Thanks for your genuine concern and wisely thought out suggestions.
What you don't understand is that I don't do this on any kind of regular basis and haven't done it for over 20 years, so, if I ever do make another trash bag bomb, I'll keep it in mind, as should everyone interested in trying this.
Peace.
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Re: Trash Bag Bomb... Anyone Else Ever Done This? [Re: TM]
#5300329 - 02/14/06 06:46 PM (17 years, 11 months ago) |
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Reason: Locked before it gets out of hand again.
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