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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: koods] * 2
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Yeah very little of that made sense objectively. You do the same shit in the political forum all you do is spout absolute horseshit

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: koods] * 2
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Just heard they found the dominion servers and 1000s of Trump ballots in a duffel bag in zelenskys gay lover’s sex dungeon. Spread the word.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Ww3 starts by Russia invading Ukraine not Poland defending Ukraine. Thats like saying France caused ww2 by declaring war on germany.

Your narrative is jacked.


You're clearly the type of guy who would do well in a comfy position over at the US Pentagon.

Let me explain, because apparently it's hard for you to understand. Ukraine is not a NATO member and Russia has not attacked NATO forces.

The war in Ukraine is between Russia and Ukraine. Poland is *not* at the moment a party to the conflict.

Get this through your thick skull, because it really shouldn't be hard to understand: If Poland allows their airbases to be used in attacks on Russian soldiers, then they automatically become a party to the conflict and thus open themselves up to retaliatory strikes.

At that point Poland *becomes* a party to the conflict, and now the war in Ukraine is no longer just between Ukraine and Russia but it is a direct hot war between NATO and Russia. The US is a NATO member also, which means the US then is forced to declare war on Russia.

At that point is when the nukes start flying.

You can blame Russia for it all you like, but it won't matter who in the end was to blame when we're all reduced to radioactive particles floating through the air anyway.

Better pray sanity prevails, because we're teetering pretty dangerously close to the edge here.

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: chopstick] * 2
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So to prevent a country from joining NATO thus threatening your boarders, you invade said country and now you got a nato country right up against you(poland)... putting you in the precise position you went to war to avoid.

That's fucking stupid.

No spin or alternative history can cover that up. Because ukraine is just the start.


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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: koods] * 2
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Damn they found a two year old mass grave containing the bodies of 21,000 Wisconsin voters. Apparently the location was stored in an NSA level 10 encrypted file embedded inside a Hunter Biden dick pic. In the same location was found a Jeffery Epstein sex tape of Bill Clinton banging Jon Benet Ramsey in the ass while
Bill Gates vaccinated her with a secret herpes vaccine potentiated with gypsy blood


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: koods] * 4
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And birds are in fact not real


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: koods] * 2
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Russian forces just destroyed a counterfeit MyPillow factory


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: koods] * 1
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Of course they're not real. Hello, welcome to two months ago when Qanon blew this case wide open.

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: mushboy] * 2
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mushboy said:
So to prevent a country from joining NATO thus threatening your boarders, you invade said country and now you got a nato country right up against you(poland)... putting you in the precise position you went to war to avoid.

That's fucking stupid.

No spin or alternative history can cover that up. Because ukraine is just the start.


To be fair, it's unlikely that Poland will enter the war in the scenario I've described. However, it's a risk nonetheless when people in the US and NATO openly talk about this exact scenario and act like they already gave the green-light for this operation, only for Poland to deny it. There has been a lot of back and forth on this issue already, and because US/NATO officials are openly talking about it, it's worth it to post it here.

The US merely wants to use Ukraine to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian, but without starting a nuclear war. Their idea is they can prolong the conflict for years, collapse Russia's economy and force Russia into a prolonged insurgency that will harm them politically, economically and militarily. Of course not a thought is given to the Ukrainian people themselves, whom will be forced to live in a failed state that will be more like Iraq or Afghanistan if the US plan is successful.

You should understand Russia had no choice but to invade Ukraine. This is what the US wanted them to do. The invasion was necessary to justify harmful economic sanctions. To US decision makers, all the world is a game of chess and human life is hardly a consideration. Peace is not helpful for their plans. Indeed, they cannot allow peace to prevail if their unipolar world order is to come into being. For their unipolar world order to become reality, both Russia and China have to be defeated at any costs necessary.

Russia was forced to invade for several reasons:

1. Ukraine threats to join NATO, and the fact that NATO bases were already built on Ukrainian territory, and that NATO forces could have moved into Ukraine at any time

2. Ukraine assembled a force of ~130,000 soldiers that was prepared to attack the breakaway zone of Donbass. If Russia did not intervene, this force would have probably wiped DPR and LPR off the map. Russia felt obligated to protect them from being massacred.

3. Ukraine was already working on a secret nuclear weapons program and according to Russia, was trying to create a dirty bomb using nuclear material from either Chernobyl or other nuclear power plants in Ukraine. Any further delays and Ukraine might have acquired nuclear weapons within just a few months.

Yes, I understand that risking a nuclear war to prevent a future nuclear war is self-defeating. However, Russia sees it like this: well, if we do nothing now, then war is inevitable later, and it will be fought on unfavorable terms for us. If we act now, we might achieve our goals and in the future be able to fight a world war on more favorable terms, or even prevent it altogether.

Russia is fighting a battle for her very existence in Ukraine, and thus is prepared for any scenario, even the nuclear one. This is why Putin put his nukes on combat alert. They are dealing with a rapacious enemy that wants to literally wipe them off the face of the Earth. The invasion of Ukraine is a preventative measure to ensure that Ukraine cannot be used by these forces to threaten them in the future.

Unfortunately I do feel that ww3 is going to be very, very difficult to avoid in the future. The US/NATO will not give up on subjugating Russia. Russia will not allow herself to be subjugated. Thus this creates a situation where conflict is the only possible outcome.

By demilitarizing and de-nazifying Ukraine, Russia creates a condition where any future wars do not involve Ukraine being hostile territory from where NATO can threaten them, or where crazed nutcases like Zelensky can threaten them.

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: chopstick] * 1
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Thank you Sputnik

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: chopstick] * 2
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Again that barely makes sense. Putins gone completely off his nut :facepalm:

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
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ONE OZ SLUG said:
Of course they're not real. Hello, welcome to two months ago when Qanon blew this case wide open.



Yeah but now we know for sure due to documents found in a Ukrainian drone facility by Chechen special forces

Quote:
ыяд по язаl


This justifies the special operation by itself


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: koods]
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Any further delays and Ukraine might have acquired nuclear weapons within just a few months.



They also were two months away from acquiring a time machine to go back and kill Putin’s mom


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: koods]
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Alot of my friends on the internet are birds 🐦

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
So to prevent a country from joining NATO thus threatening your boarders, you invade said country and now you got a nato country right up against you(poland)... putting you in the precise position you went to war to avoid.

That's fucking stupid. .


Is this your first time experiencing a chopstick post?


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: ONE OZ SLUG] * 3
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ONE OZ SLUG said:
Thank you Sputnik


The US themselves officially admitted they are planning a long-term insurgency in Ukraine:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-has-plans-ukraine-government-exile-contingency-covert-guerrilla-warfare

Make no mistake - we can't be naive about this. The Neocons in Biden's admin absolutely want the blood to flow in Ukraine for as long as possible. That's why they're sending terrorists from Syria, it's why they're recruiting neo-nazi's from Western Europe to be sent directly to the front-line in Ukraine. It's why they're sending billions in arms. It's why they're preparing to recognize a government-in-exile that will "rule" Ukraine remotely from Poland. Essentially a Juan Guaido situation, like how they tried to do with Venezuela during the Trump years.

The longer they drag out this war, the more they feel like they're hurting Russia.

The best thing that could happen now is for Ukrainians to lay down their arms and join Russia in creating a new security architecture for their country, to ensure it does not become a hot insurgent warzone for the next 10 years, turning Ukraine into the next Iraq. All Neo-Nazi elements need to be captured or killed. The ones involved in war-crimes should be prosecuted. Foreign mercenaries should be identified and arrested, or otherwise kicked out of the country. Perhaps it's fortunate that thousands of terrorists from Idlib, Syria are pouring into the country - they can be eliminated in one of the cauldrons, which was not possible in Syria.

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: koods] * 2
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koods said:
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Any further delays and Ukraine might have acquired nuclear weapons within just a few months.



They also were two months away from acquiring a time machine to go back and kill Putin’s mom


Says the guy who watched footage from ARMA 3 and seriously thought it was real combat footage :facepalm:

Zelensky had just threatened to pull out of the agreement preventing them from acquiring nuclear weapons a few days before the invasion:

https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/ukraine/2022/ukraine-220220-sputnik06.htm

"On Saturday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky implicitly threatened to revise Ukraine's non-nuclear weapons state status, telling attendees of the Munich Security Conference that Kiev could pull out of the 1994 Budapest Memorandum - which committed the country to give up its massive Soviet-era arsenal of nukes."

It would not have been hard for them to create crude nuclear weapons using any one of their 15 nuclear reactor plants relatively quickly. On top of that, they already have ballistic missiles that can be refitted with nuclear warheads. It was a serious threat, unfortunately.

As I said previously, Zelensky blundered big-time when he threatened to pull out of the Budapest Memorandum. That was a huge error which sealed his fate with the invasion.

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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: chopstick] * 1
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You’re gonna get this thread sent to the conspiracy forum


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: koods]
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Chopstick, do you know what Russia’s commitment was in the Budapest agreement?


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Breaking Russia bombs Ukraine, UN having special emergency meeting [Re: chopstick] * 1
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Sadly, long insurgency campaigns is how countries go about engaging (indirectly) with major nuclear powers.

We're sure as shit not going to get into the conflict ourselves. Fuck that. So long insurgency campaign it is.

Unfriendly reminder that this is Russia's fault, Russia is the one throwing the punches, Russia is clearly the aggressor. Also they're bombing schools and civilian buildings.

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