mushboy said:

durian_2008 said:

In online rumor, Putin acts against Western banking interests, in Europe, as retribution for financial sanctions.

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im trying to close on a mortgage someone tell him to wait a few weeks like he did for china. cut me some slack brotha man

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durian_2008 said:

In online rumor, Putin acts against Western banking interests, in Europe, as retribution for financial sanctions.

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mushboy said:

im trying to close on a mortgage someone tell him to wait a few weeks like he did for china. cut me some slack brotha man

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mushboy said:

History repeats itself. Remember when the US sanctioned japan?

A no fly zone on its own would be a direct armed conflict(war) with russia. Plus the sanctions? We would all be fucked.

Imagine during Iraq if the russians said they were putting up a no fly zone of Iraq to protect the innocence on the ground. And shot down coalition aircraft?

How would our trigger happy public react?

Putin does have us over a table with this one. To prevent ww3 we gotta let him do us dirty with no lube

Or we all die. Zelensky probably knows this but to him it doesnt matter.

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koods said:

The Russian loses are staggering. They are losing entire units, dozens of soldiers at a time all over the place. 50-100 yesterday. They are taking down fighter jets. Capturing high ranking officers.

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birdeatingspider said:

Truly hope you are right. The only positive outcome I can envision here would be an internal coup de tat(sp?).

Still wondering what power the ISS has and if they are/will become involved. These are war crimes and Putin must be held accountable.

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koods said:

Russian soldiers shoot a Ukrainian protester in the leg and not a single person runs for cover. They run to the protester who was shot. These are the bravest people in the world

https://twitter.com/shtirlitz53/status/1500128965977153550?s=21

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Stop talking and go over and help and while you are at it take me with you

chopstick said:

lol @ koods drinking the Kool-Aid

Here's the real situation on the ground in Ukraine, free of the mountain of Ukrainian propaganda being spewed right now

Putin's military operation in Ukraine boosted his popularity dramatically, he is not at risk of being overthrown by anybody. For a long time there has been outrage in Russia at Ukraine's open slaughter of Russian-speaking citizens in East Ukraine (14,000 civilians were killed by Ukrainian artillery shells, including 500 children, since 2014.) If anything people were UPSET Putin had done nothing to protect them until now. This military operation enjoys enormous popularity on Russian territory. Furthermore, economic sanctions only make the average Russian even more defiant towards the west in general. People need to understand the Russian mentality. They have a kind of natural instinct to display defiance towards ANYONE that would try to subjugate them. These are the people whom were almost wiped off the face of the Earth by both Napoleon and Hitler for God's sake. They will never give in to external threats, let alone economic sanctions.

Anybody who seriously thinks Russia is losing the war in Ukraine needs to get their head checked, the Ukrainians are pumping out propaganda like no tomorrow and exaggerating Russia's losses more than 20x what they actually are. They are claiming 10,000 dead Russian soldiers, the real number is around 500 as of today. They are even using video game footage from ARMA 3 to falsely claim shoot downs of Russian jets. The "ghost of Kyiv" story was totally made up, so was the story about the soldiers supposedly telling the Russian warship to "fuck off", they are all alive and footage was posted of them in Russian captivity.

Ukraine's air force and navy have been completely obliterated, all command & control has been destroyed, 75% of their regular military hardware is destroyed. Only individual sub-units are putting up any real defense now, but they have no head, operating only at individual subunit levels.

What's more, Russian forces are closing a cauldron around some 100,000 Ukrainian troops. What does this mean? It means 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers with no command, no re-supply, no air support, no functional armored vehicles, nothing. All totally surrounded and basically sitting ducks for Russian artillery. What does that mean? It means they will all be forced to surrender (or die.) Even as crazy as the propaganda is right now, not even the western media will be able to cover-up the mass surrender and disarmament of some 100 thousand Ukrainian soldiers.

Fun fact, all foreign mercenaries currently going to Ukraine are being deployed to this large area that is about to become a cauldron and is already almost totally surrounded. These people go to their death or capture for nothing, with no hope of winning any kind of real tactical victory against Russian troops.

Ukraine is fucked, it's only a matter of time now before the remnants of Ukraine's army collapse. At this point it's basically just a "mop-up" operation in many areas. Russia has already destroyed most advanced military hardware in possession of Ukrainian soldiers, now they're just hitting any ammo dumps or communication centers they missed in the first round of attacks. Groups of hostile Ukrainians putting up resistance are being hit in pin-point precision strikes by the RuAF. This is causing very heavy casualties amongst the remaining Ukrainian army personnel, while deliberately avoiding civilian deaths.

Russian KA-52 alligator attack choppers are openly hunting in certain areas of the contact zone without facing hardly any anti-air fire. They are equipped with anti-tank missiles and are being used to destroy any remaining Ukrainian tanks or APC's in the various fire zones. The Russian MoD posted footage from these choppers. It's open season on Ukrainian armored vehicles right now all over Ukraine.

All that will be left of Ukraine's army will be individual bands of light infantry. They have no air cover, no missiles, what armored vehicles they have left are being hunted down, and any of their remaining artillery units are slowly being picked off one by one.

The only major problem the Russians face right now is that the Ukrainian army are taking civilian hostages and using them as human shields in some areas, especially the coastal city of Mariupol where a large unit of Azov battalion Neo-Nazi's are holed up. They literally use human shields, having herded civilians into the basements of the buildings where they have taken up firing positions. The result may be that Russia will have to negotiate a peaceful exit of these Neo-Nazi brigades from places like Mariupol without letting the city see any fighting, since fighting will certainly result in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians thanks to the Neo-Nazi tactics of taking human shields.

What's more, I have seen disturbing reports that the Neo-Nazi units in Ukraine's army have deliberately herded hundreds of civilians into buildings which they have mined and plan to detonate them all if their lives are threatened. Any civilians trying to leave are being shot by the Azov battalion. There are videos and photos all over the internet of civilians executed brutally all over Ukraine by the many neo-nazi units in Ukraine's army.

Despite these disgusting tactics and the total lack of respect for human life by the many fascist neo-nazi units that are embedded in the Ukrainian military, Russia's operation is proceeding pretty much as "smoothly" as it possibly could given the circumstances. Most likely, the operation will be concluded in a few weeks, or at most, 1-2 months.

Russia will receive their guarantees that Ukraine will never join NATO and a new government will be formed, at which time they will withdraw their forces from Ukraine. They do not plan for a long-term occupation. The fate of Zelensky is unclear, but he has been evacuated to the US embassy in Poland. He may try to rule in exile or pretend to be the "true" ruler of Ukraine (like Juan Guaido did with Venezuela) but his rule is effectively over. Never again will neo-nazi's be a part of Ukraine's government, and never again will their territory be used to threaten the Russian people.

That's the truth of the matter at this time. Right now the Ukrainians are waging a virtually unprecedented info war (in co-ordination with the US and European MSM) to make it seem like the Russians are "losing" in Ukraine. This couldn't be further from the truth. This PsyOP being waged right now is huge. It is intended to generate global outrage against Russia to justify unprecedented economic sanctions that will seriously harm not just Russia, but the entire global economy as well. We are all going to feel the pain from the economic fallout of this crisis. Oil is the highest it has been in decades and the price of wheat has doubled already. It will only get even more crazy as time goes on.

Things are only going to get even crazier as time goes on. There will be more wars. More global economic insecurity. This is due to the competing world ideologies between Russia/China and the US. The US desires a unipolar world order where it dominates the whole planet unquestioningly. Russia and China want a multi-polar world order where power is shared equally between nations. These two competing world orders cannot co-exist. Therefore, things are coming to a head and it may very well all end in a major world war. This is perhaps the most dangerous time period for humanity, ever, in all of human history. What we are facing is a crisis many magnitudes worse than the Cuban missile crisis and it can only possibly end if either one side is "defeated" or one side backs down willingly.

Good luck to all of you.

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Well not with that attitude

chopstick said:

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