CHeifM4sterDiezL said:

spirit_shadow said:

I'm with asante. Putin in is a strategist, he knows exactly what he is doing.

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Thats what I thought but after the speech he made when he invaded I realized I had thought of every scenario except for the one where putin losts his goddamn mind and finally went full megalomania with covid.

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Think about it. Now is the PERFECT time to strong-arm a nation because look at all the panzy ass weak leaders every other country has. Back to the day we would say bring it on and kill them all, now look at us. Putin knows this, in combination with him having access to nuclear toys and warning using them if anyone interferes.....nobody has any balls. Make me president see what happens

spirit_shadow said:

I'm with asante. Putin is a strategist, he knows exactly what he is doing.

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Near Dylan said:

Damn. U just totally owned him

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larry.fisherman said:

Does anyone else think it's interesting how perfect Ukraine is to creating a "buffer zone." Pretty quickly he could swipe the baltic states and Moldova ect. Leave Poland because their army is huge. I feel like as a former USSR territory with such a large force he's going to try to leverage their cooperation. If not, in the event he proceeds, the Polish border is next. It might be a week or two, months. However long he needs to prepare the next movement by lining up his forces in appropriate locations. But hopefully not.

The China thing though, I mean if he really IS going to make a move.. one would think it needs to happen in the next few days. Shit even tonight. He needs the full distraction of the west. Taiwan also happens to be a perfect buffer zone for a naval fleet, why would they come through the South China Sea? No fucking way. Russia on land. China at sea. If they make the move on Taiwan than that's more than just escalation it's something the military can't ignore.

If things go sour we now have two very large problems and a lot of small countries at risk. The world wars had a lot going on in many places but a lot of it happened in Europe. The way things can move around these days, and learning from the past, one would think by creating many fronts you create more problems and more problems means people have to make choices on how to support and react that are further under your influence.

So I'm thinking, if things get weird, at first it will be a slow burn. Shock. Then slow burn and then it'll happen on a large scale on multiple fronts. Not just a political and cyber war but a multi-front hybrid war that's going to really effect shipping routes. And if they, what we'll call the new Axis, get any advantage you have to wonder what it will take for nations to turtle and fend for themselves. Spread shit around enough, make enough turmoil in their local infrastructure. They gotta react to that. With enough savvy I could see them at least having the ultimate goal of taking Asia and Europe. Even if it never happens it has to be a thought. If no one wants nuclear war then a lot can happen to avoid it. A lot, especially when we become jaded to it over time.

That would make a world divided, two competing super nations that don't really cooperate, aren't really friendly. Everyone once again aware they are only cease-fired because it's inevitable that the next world war happens. I could honestly see world war 3 completely fought without nukes, and that reality could see us being sheepish making poor decisions. Nukes don't necessarily mean nuclear war, historically they are a tool of fear and a tool of fear is a great way to get what you want if you wield it with less fear than the next guy. Like a mugging. You might be strapped, but it might be smarter to just give him your wallet. And most people will.

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spirit_shadow said:

CHeifM4sterDiezL said:

spirit_shadow said:

I'm with asante. Putin in is a strategist, he knows exactly what he is doing.

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Thats what I thought but after the speech he made when he invaded I realized I had thought of every scenario except for the one where putin losts his goddamn mind and finally went full megalomania with covid.

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Think about it. Now is the PERFECT time to strong-arm a nation because look at all the panzy ass weak leaders every other country has. Back to the day we would say bring it on and kill them all, now look at us. Putin knows this, in combination with him having access to nuclear toys and warning using them if anyone interferes.....nobody has any balls. Make me president see what happens

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TheFakeSunRa said:

It’s the fault of everyone that propagates the myth of meaning in employment.

He thinks his job gives him purpose same as a dentist.

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psi said:

spirit_shadow said:

I'm with asante. Putin is a strategist, he knows exactly what he is doing.

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Yeah he is a master of strategy and propaganda, but still subject to hubris. His goal of ruling over as many miserable people as possible is foolish. Many-moves-ahead chess playing that might be Russia's best shot at that so far, but what he wants is stupid.

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psi said:

TheFakeSunRa said:

It’s the fault of everyone that propagates the myth of meaning in employment.

He thinks his job gives him purpose same as a dentist.

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Yeah that's a good analogy. A dentist full of himself but with a chip on his shoulder that he's not an MD. He feels personally superior to the other leaders yet he is stuck running Russia. He should direct his smarts towards making Russia less shitty but he's a psychopath, so he'd rather make other places more shitty.

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