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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Why aren't you one anymore?


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl] * 1
    #27602397 -

@revolution.gurl
You clearly can't handle being wrong, and you really don't understand this stuff well enough to make an informed argument. You should probably ask more questions and try to learn before asserting you know more than other people. Otherwise you're just an unwitting vector for antivaxer nonsense and bullshit healthcare scams. Covid vaccination prevents transmission in a population. There's lots of research that to show that. Getting vaccinated protects other people besides those who actually receive the vaccine. Larger populations of unvaccinated people are a burden on the entire population both in terms of increased disease transmission and in terms of wasted resources, healthcare and otherwise. There are compelling reasons to hold people accountable for bad personal choices that fuck other people over, and refusing to get vaccinated is one of those decisions. These kind of scenarios are why we have laws, and why mandates for vaccination are continuing to gain traction around the world.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 3
    #27602400 -

Jokeshopbeard said:
Why aren't you one anymore?



Exactly the response a child would give


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork] * 1
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Mr.GuessWork said:
Covid vaccination prevents transmission in a population.



pre·vent
/prəˈvent/
Learn to pronounce
verb
1.
keep (something) from happening or arising.

So it's clear it doesn't 'prevent'. It slows transmission down somewhat, perhaps, but 'prevent' is absolutely not the right word, as it is a lie to say that it stops transmission outright.


Mr.GuessWork said:
These kind of scenarios are why we have laws



Laws are fucking retarded, and I have little respect for people that abide by them for the fact they're told to. That's hella sheepish IMO.

Morality is a different matter, I think.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
    #27602409 -

koods said:
Jokeshopbeard said:
Why aren't you one anymore?



Exactly the response a child would give



Amazing. You're so clever. Dodging questions as ever.

I'll happily spend my life as a child if it means I can avoid ever becoming anything like you.

I'd fucking hate myself were I as crooked, arrogant, deceitful and downright nasty as you. I'll spend my life living in wonder and joy, thank you!!


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #27602438 -

Jokeshopbeard said:
Mr.GuessWork said:
Covid vaccination prevents transmission in a population.



pre·vent
/prəˈvent/
Learn to pronounce
verb
1.
keep (something) from happening or arising.

So it's clear it doesn't 'prevent'. It slows transmission down somewhat, perhaps, but 'prevent' is absolutely not the right word, as it is a lie to say that it stops transmission outright.


Mr.GuessWork said:
These kind of scenarios are why we have laws



Laws are fucking retarded, and I have little respect for people that abide by them for the fact they're told to. That's hella sheepish IMO.

Morality is a different matter, I think.




So if you really want to get into what words mean and nitpick, then you should also be more careful with how you read them. Prevention is not the same thing as absolute prohibition. The word is commonly used in a relative sense. Your countrymen would be ashamed of you for this inelegant understanding of your native language. I hope that being scolded about bad english by an American is a new low for you.

To the second point, most people are sheep in most ways, and you obey way more laws than you're aware of, purely because of your sheepish indulgences. Lots of laws are there to prevent harm, and rebelling against them just makes you a bad person, not some holier-than-thou moral warrior. A bonafide moral rebellion against an unjust law requires lots thought and reflection on both the personal aspects of the law as well as the social ones. You can't claim that your refusal to get vaccinated is moral, and I haven't seen you even try to justify it in a rational way. All you've done so far is dodge the responsibility for the negative consequences of your choice and ignore the science when it makes your point of view embarrassing. I'm still not convinced you're doing your own thinking on the issue of vaccination, but I'd be happy to see you try to justify a moral argument for not getting vaccinated in a way that acknowledges scientific info and reason.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #27602447 -

:popcorn:


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"Blow up your TV, throw away your paper.  Go to the country, build you a home."

- John Prine

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #27602452 -

Mr.GuessWork said:
@revolution.gurl
You clearly can't handle being wrong, and you really don't understand this stuff well enough to make an informed argument. You should probably ask more questions and try to learn before asserting you know more than other people. Otherwise you're just an unwitting vector for antivaxer nonsense and bullshit healthcare scams. Covid vaccination prevents transmission in a population. There's lots of research that to show that. Getting vaccinated protects other people besides those who actually receive the vaccine. Larger populations of unvaccinated people are a burden on the entire population both in terms of increased disease transmission and in terms of wasted resources, healthcare and otherwise. There are compelling reasons to hold people accountable for bad personal choices that fuck other people over, and refusing to get vaccinated is one of those decisions. These kind of scenarios are why we have laws, and why mandates for vaccination are continuing to gain traction around the world.



I have no issue being wrong. I ask a lot of questions actually. So please don't assume what I do and don't do.

We weren't talking about general antivaxxers or vaccinations in general. We are talking about the covid shots only and what they do for the population and evidently don't do. It's a mutating virus. There are multiple strains. The shots do not prevent transmission for all strains. It's really not complicated to understand and for people who supposedly tell me I don't know this or that, you should be able to figure that's what I am saying in my previous post, but you're purposefully ignoring that because you just don't want to admit I am actually right. Thanks for coming out though:shrug:

So yes vaccines work. No one was fucking arguing that. Please stop creating arguments that aren't there because you are biased and hell bent on blaming antivaxxers for covid issues that aren't actually their fault at all.

Israel is already getting ready to implement a 4th booster.


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"Souls love. That’s what souls do. Egos don’t, but souls do. Become a soul, look around, and you’ll be amazed-all the beings around you are souls." -Ram Dass

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork] * 1
    #27602462 -

Mr.GuessWork said:
Jokeshopbeard said:
Mr.GuessWork said:
Covid vaccination prevents transmission in a population.



pre·vent
/prəˈvent/
Learn to pronounce
verb
1.
keep (something) from happening or arising.

So it's clear it doesn't 'prevent'. It slows transmission down somewhat, perhaps, but 'prevent' is absolutely not the right word, as it is a lie to say that it stops transmission outright.


Mr.GuessWork said:
These kind of scenarios are why we have laws



Laws are fucking retarded, and I have little respect for people that abide by them for the fact they're told to. That's hella sheepish IMO.

Morality is a different matter, I think.




So if you really want to get into what words mean and nitpick, then you should also be more careful with how you read them. Prevention is not the same thing as absolute prohibition. The word is commonly used in a relative sense. Your countrymen would be ashamed of you for this inelegant understanding of your native language. I hope that being scolded about bad english by an American is a new low for you.

To the second point, most people are sheep in most ways, and you obey way more laws than you're aware of, purely because of your sheepish indulgences. Lots of laws are there to prevent harm, and rebelling against them just makes you a bad person, not some holier-than-thou moral warrior. A bonafide moral rebellion against an unjust law requires lots thought and reflection on both the personal aspects of the law as well as the social ones. You can't claim that your refusal to get vaccinated is moral, and I haven't seen you even try to justify it in a rational way. All you've done so far is dodge the responsibility for the negative consequences of your choice and ignore the science when it makes your point of view embarrassing. I'm still not convinced you're doing your own thinking on the issue of vaccination, but I'd be happy to see you try to justify a moral argument for not getting vaccinated in a way that acknowledges scientific info and reason.



LOL gotta love the personal attacks when Jokeshopbeard and I have done nothing but stay on topic.

Morality is and always will be purely subjective. So let's not start about morality and what is/isn't moral. You will absolutely lose that argument with me.


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"Souls love. That’s what souls do. Egos don’t, but souls do. Become a soul, look around, and you’ll be amazed-all the beings around you are souls." -Ram Dass

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl] * 2
    #27602474 -

Morality isn't real, but vaccine mandates are immoral!  :derp:


Lol. Let's Go, Darwin!

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl] * 3
    #27602480 -

r3volution.gurl said:
LOL gotta love the personal attacks when Jokeshopbeard and I have done nothing but stay on topic.




:laugh2:  You trollin bruh?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #27602484 -

Stop debating the linguistics of morality and just get vaccinated already!

:fuckthisshit:


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"Blow up your TV, throw away your paper.  Go to the country, build you a home."

- John Prine

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: schmutzen]
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Baby_Hitler said:
Morality isn't real, but vaccine mandates are immoral!  :derp:


Lol. Let's Go, Darwin!



Wanna quote me where I used the word immoral? Pretty sure I said human rights issue which is not the same thing.

Or are you just going to continue making completely wrong assumptions? Let's not forget you wrote a whole lot of bullshit regarding a situation you had no idea about and took 0 responsibility for your shitty evaluation.

You guys are going full on tribal so I mean you're really insulting yourself with the darwin joke.


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"Souls love. That’s what souls do. Egos don’t, but souls do. Become a soul, look around, and you’ll be amazed-all the beings around you are souls." -Ram Dass

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: r3volution.gurl] * 5
    #27602491 -

Shots are immuno-stimulants. No one disputes this is how they work. You inject an antigen into the body and it gets the immune response going. The studies do show the boosters 'work', they get the immune system going again, they do seem to reduce risks from ommnicron.

But this fact that they're immunostimulants means they can cause side-effects. Even if someone doesn't have an auto-immune disorder that is diagnosed, most chronic health conditions are linked to an auto-immune mechanism. Obesity, migraines, anxiety, depression, mental and physical health conditions, all seem to relate to the immune system attacking itself.

So there's a strange disconnect where people assert that the vaccine is so effective at jumpstarting the immune system, but simultaneously it can't cause many side-effects? Strength of immune stimulation should correlate with strength of risk of side-effects.

I have gotten vaccination twice in my adult life; once the MMR and one other vaccine, then the J and J some months ago. Both times, the worst migraines of my life ensued, with actual loss of vision for around a minute. My migraines get bad but that is not something that has happened to me, ever, except from these shots.
The MMR I got 5 years ago, I wasn't expecting it at all. I knew the shot would be painful, but I expected the pain to be it. I experienced blindness and almost passing out, and could not drive myself home from the clinic.

So I expected this from the covid vaccine as a possibility, but hoped my health had improved since then so that it could go off without a hitch. I chose the J&J because it seemed to be based on older tech and it was just one. I hoped it would go well, prepared for the worst. Loss of vision again. Longer this time than last time. Almost passed out, I didn't know if this feeling would ever pass. For the first day after, I could scarcely breathe.

So my experience with vaccines is like rolling a side-effect roulette. I suppose I have only gotten two so far, but I sure as hell do not want to take more chances and get the booster, which seems mandated for work at most jobs and universities now. There's the saying 'fool me once, shame on you...'. If you got severe migraines with loss of vision from the first vaccine, would any of you be clamoring from another? That would be ignoring the evidence at hand. Most say the second shot and booster are worse. Would any of you want to risk a worse version of that?

My fear is that now these artificial inoculations will be routine and that to get most jobs, I will have to endure this punch to the face. Like I said, this is all evidence the vaccine works as advertised, the immune system gets going. But for some a punch to the immune system has severe negative health implications. So we will now not trust any natural antigens from anyone, to the extent of still making it illegal to breath free air without the mandated breathing-restriction device. But we trust artificial antigens so much you get fired if you don't get them.

Where's the logic end to it? If one booster helps, why not two? Why not a booster every month, every week, every day, twice every day? By the logic of these medical authorities, more immuno-stimulation should be more effective. I don't see them stopping at any point. They're already giving it to younger and younger children. Why not more and more often? Why not a daily pfizer shot? Why not just replace our whole immune system with pfizer-created antigens?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Covid didn't kill me, I feel like I should be compensated like 5 bitcoins from koods for all of the mental anguish he caused me for not getting the vaccine :awehigh:


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Ban lotto

Edited by spirit_shadow (01/01/22 04:46 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CreonAntigone] * 1
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That is the definition of the slippery slope fallacy, and is leading you to a conclusion far outside of realistic possibility.

You seem to suffer from rare side effects and should talk to a doctor about it. That sucks and I understand why you would avoid boosters.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante] * 2
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Asante said:
gopher said:
I woke up with a sore throat, but I feel fine otherwise, hope I'm not developing the omigod coof

I better not be, I paid like $700 for driving school for January, If I miss those classed I'm going to be regretful




I have "something" that tested neg twice but could be omicron, it was very mild in me and yes in mornings I wake up like  :dontspillme: but I drink water, beakfast, chuck in a sugar free cough lozenge and I'm good to go.

Thats a thing to stock up on if you're in a store, sugar free cough lozenge candy. That likely will sell out and provides relief to the throat




I normally just put a cock in my mouth. Relieves the throat like nothing else. Especially the creamy center.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante] * 5
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Asante said:
I'm not forcing antivaxxers into getting vaccinated, on the contrary I'm forced into a 2 year lockdown as a high risk population because antimaskers and antivaxxers refuse to take responsibility.





You are pretty fucking ignorant if you think a mask or the vaccine will stop the pandemic.

If you vaccinate the entire world. Covid will still continue...

Noone gave a shit when they randomly got the flu year after year going out to eat with friends or something. And many of those who got the flu died. All of a sudden people care.

I dont give a shit. Never wore a mask. Never got vaccinated. Got covid once. But guess what.. I didnt blame someone else like you ass hats.

Im sorry you were sold a false bill of goods. Im sorry that in germany 90%+ of all cases are in fully vaccinated individuals. Really says "its all the unvaxxed fault" lmao

Source https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/Wochenbericht/Wochenbericht_2021-12-30.pdf?__blob=publicationFile pg14


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Anything posted from this account is made up for the entertainment of others, this account is a complete work of fiction. Its not illegal to get bored and make up stories, authors do it all the time.

Edited by prettyMushy (01/01/22 05:53 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: prettyMushy]
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Polio says that vaccines work, you are incorrect


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Lead by example, words mean little when your actions don't reflect what you say.

Spread kindness, love, empathy, compassion.

Learn from mistakes. Try and do better. Each day is a new day, try to make it a better one.

Coconut and Avocado is awesome for the skin.

MIND OVER MATTER

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Mr.GuessWork said:
Covid vaccination prevents transmission in a population.



pre·vent
/prəˈvent/
Learn to pronounce
verb
1.
keep (something) from happening or arising.

So it's clear it doesn't 'prevent'. It slows transmission down somewhat, perhaps, but 'prevent' is absolutely not the right word, as it is a lie to say that it stops transmission outright.
.



Lol an English lesson from what one must assume is a high school dropout


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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