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Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! * 1
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I've found lots of beautiful, unusual edible mushrooms the past few weeks, but I've also found that as the days and nights grow warmer, the wildlife is becoming more active.

I almost reached down and touched a copper head, when trying to get close to some fungus. I saw it at the last second, thank goodness,  and took a few shots of this gorgeous snake. Copperhead are venomous, but they're very rarely deadly. They generally just make the body part they bit swell up. So don't panic if you see one. Just give it the space and respect it needs and it'll go on to eat the mice and rats that love to nibble at our favorite shrooms!

We also have wild hogs in our area, though they've just had their piglets (Hoglets?) So they're still pretty scarce. We found a skull with 7-8 in lower tusks, though,  so we know our local population can climb upwards of 400-500 pounds (180-230 kilograms) and those hogs can become real aggressive when they have piglets in tow.

Beautiful baby copperhead. Only about a foot long.




I made a friend.






This Peziza vesiculosa startled me, when it puffed spores out at me:



My first chanterelle of the season:


Edited by magicae-boletus (05/29/20 08:52 PM)

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: magicae-boletus]
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That’s no chanterelle

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: doctorghosty]
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doctorghosty said:
That’s no chanterelle


I agree, but what a cool post.  I love the lil' snail!

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: Grosbeak]
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Forgot to mention... awesome shot of the Copperhead.  We don't have these in California!  I'm a snake guy.

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: Grosbeak]
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GORGEOUS COPPERHEAD!!!! I hope to be adding one of these or a copperhead-cottonmouth hybrid to my growing collection of reptiles!!!! Also...yeah that's not a chantrelle


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Whoever appeals to the law against his
Fellow man is either a fool or a coward
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant
If I live I will kill you, if I die you are forgiven
Such is the rule of honor

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: Grosbeak]
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Copperheads may not be deadly, but the venom is not mild by any means!

I got bit by a four foot copperhead on the finger, three years back,and let me tell, you, it was no walk in the park.

The pain was unbearable, the worst that I've ever experienced!

Also, you don't just swell up, that venom dissolves your muscle and nerves, this is probably why it hurts so bad.

The fingers, toes, and outer extremities are the worst to git bit on too, and most people end up loosing the digit, even after the administration of anti-venom.

Anyway, I had to hike miles, about to pass out from the pain, back to the car, and then my buddy had to drive me another hour to the hospital, where I was then air lifted to another hospital, three hours away.

To make a long story short, my hand looked like it was inflated to the size of a catchers mitt, and the venom melted huge puss filled holes right through my finger, plus most of the skin was dissolved too.

The doctors actually were debating on whether they should go ahead and amputate my finger, or not.

They were also debating which body part they should take a skin graft from, because most of the skin was dissolved off of my finger.

They said, that I did not want to have to go the graft route either.

It also took three vials of anti-venom, at thirty three thousand dollars per vial, which I was highly allergic to!

They also said that I could die, if I ever get bit again, and need anti-venom.

Anyway, after a few days in the Hospital and several hundred thousand dollars later I was released.

I wasn't out of the woods yet,and had to nurse what was left of my finger for several months, and each time I went for a checkup, I was told that it looked bad, and it would probably have to go.

Well, they were wrong,and my finger finally healed.

It's deformed, wont bend all the way,and has pins and needles for feeling, but at least I saved it.

The moral of this story is, don't take copperheads lightly, it's not worth the medical bills,or the fact that you can lose a body part, or be deformed for life :wink:

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: Allium]
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Very cool post! sorry to just point out an error and dip, wasn’t trying to be negative

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: doctorghosty]
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33k per vial??? Wow

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: doctorghosty]
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Yes sir, that shit is expensive!

Of course my insurance paid a lot of the bill, and they can come hunt me down for the rest :grin:

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: Allium]
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WOW, Allium! What a horrible experience and I'm terribly sorry for what you had to go through. I can't even begin to imagine. You had a severe reaction to the venom.

Luckily for most of us, your story is a worst case scenario. Most people have no more than swelling and pain to the bitten extremity, occasionally some tissue necrosis and most need no antivenin. It's actually very rare to be given antivenin for a copperhead bite because the cure carries almost as much risk as the bite venom.

They are the most likely venomous snake to bite here in the US because they have a habit of striking immediately, when startled and unlike many venomous snakes, they almost always envenomate their bites.
Right now, with all the leaf litter covering the ground, they're extremely hard to see. I was very lucky! I've lost all but light perception in my left eye and over 70% of the vision in my right eye, over the past two years. I don't know how I was able to cat h site of him. He never even flicked his tongue!!!

This photo was taken one to my eye level. She's not as easy to see here:



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I will strive to learn more everyday because knowledge is power, power is strength and strength equals freedom.

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: doctorghosty]
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Doctorghosty, no need to apologize. You're absolutely correct. That is NOT a chanterelle. It is actually a false chanterelle (Hygrophoropsis aurantiaca). I uploaded the wrong photo! Terrible mistake. I'll have to look at more than my thumbnails before I upload for now on. Thanks for pointing it out so that I could correct my mistake!

And don't worry. I have a pretty thick skin. I realize that I'm human and prone to mistakes (unfortunately). They're okay as long as I learn from them and no one gets hurt.

THIS is a photo of my first chanterelle:



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I will strive to learn more everyday because knowledge is power, power is strength and strength equals freedom.

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: Grosbeak]
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Me, too. It just fit perfectly with that  mushroom.


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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: Allium]
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I can't say that I agree with breeding hybrids of venomous snakes (or any animal or plants, for that matter), but those coppermouths ARE beautiful.

The venom they carry must be a strange mix and possibly deadly as we have no antivenin to fight the effects.

A scary tbont: Since almost all hybrids (plant or animal) whom go on to reproduce, have offspring with very, very mixed and unpredictable traits, we'd never know what traits the young are going to be born with. Will the young be born with the mother's type of venom? The father's? A combination of both? Will the hybrids be born nonvenomous? Or perhaps the pairing of the two snakes will provide the perfect genetic ingredients to create, not only a completely new species of snake, but a completely new venom as well?

As is bound to happen sooner or later, what happens if they escape into the wild (or more likely someone can't handle them and turns them loose), find a like mate (which seems impossible, but happens more than you might think) and have young out in the swamp? The horror!

I figure that if they choose not to mate with each other, outside of captivity, that's a pretty great indication that it shouldn't happen.

I'm a snake-girl myself and I love to write when my imagination gets the better of me (which it did at the thought of a poison hybrid. Sorry about that). I hope you get your snake.

...

Just don't release it into the wild! HA!


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I will strive to learn more everyday because knowledge is power, power is strength and strength equals freedom.

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: magicae-boletus]
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Yeah, I'm allergic to bees, and almost died from a bee sting one time, plus other animals with any type of venom, I seem to be allergic to as well, to some degree.

This being said, Copperheads are the least venomous North American snake, and the venom is mild compared to let's a say a Cottonmouth, or a Rattlesnake, but you just never know how your body will react to the poison, so I just offered anyone a warning who tries to handle these snakes for fun, or is any area where they could get bitten.

I love snakes to death, always have,and always will, and I've caught my fair share of deadly snakes in my time, but after getting bit, and experiencing all that horrible pain, and my finger deformity, I only handle non venomous snakes from now on.

I really don't think those Doctors knew whet they were doing,and several people told me that they normally don't administer antivenin for copperhead bites.

Why the gave me three vials, is beyond me, and I think they were just trying to milk my insurance company for everything it had.

The tree vials, and the helicopter alone, was over one hundred thousand dollars, not to mention the four day stay at the Hospital!

I'm just glad that you didn't get bit :cool:

Be careful out there folks!

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: Allium]
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When copperheads pick their heads up off the ground it can be hard to see them as what they are.  I saw one doing that last summer looking for mushrooms.  Also even though it is just spring I have already seen 2 or 3 this season, and the dog got bit by one.  He is okay now. Does anyone know what kind of snake this is?

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: Ram the shroomer]
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Ram the shroomer said:
When copperheads pick their heads up off the ground it can be hard to see them as what they are.  I saw one doing that last summer looking for mushrooms.  Also even though it is just spring I have already seen 2 or 3 this season, and the dog got bit by one.  He is okay now. Does anyone know what kind of snake this is?


Banded watersnake (Nerodia fasciata) non-venomous


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Whoever appeals to the law against his
Fellow man is either a fool or a coward
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant
If I live I will kill you, if I die you are forgiven
Such is the rule of honor

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: MentalPariah]
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:whathesaid: Some Water Snakes Can Look Just Like A Water Moccasin & Vice Versa.

I Used To Go To This Downhill Stream I Fished At Frequently During The Spring & I Would Flip Big Rocks Over & Find 2-3ft Water Snakes Curled Up Underneath Them. I Enjoy Reptiles.

Anyway, One Time I Caught One That I Believed To Be A Water Snake & I Grabbed Too Far Behind His Neck & He Turned His Head Around & Tried To Bite Me. I Watched As One Of His Fangs Slid Across My Skin. It Was A Water Moccasin That Had Mud All Over Him & The Sun Had Dried The Mud, Effecting His Coloration.

I Was About 2 Miles From Anyone Too, So I Don't Know If I Would've Been Able To Make It Back Home In Time.


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Tips For A Beginner Mushroom Hunter

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27146775


One Who Hunts Mushrooms Is A Mushroom Hunter. One Who Eats Them Without Knowing What They Are, Is A Dumb Mushroom Hunter. - Seph

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Re: Be CAREFUL, while foraging!!! [Re: MpSeph]
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Funny I just saw this post,  I literally just walked in the door from a walk in the woods and saw 5 large Northern watermoccasins, not together but 8n the same general location around the compost pile where i pick cuteness (err, I mean  study). The stakes are definitely out right now 8n my Area.

I love seeing them, as long as it's not at my feet when I notice it. They all have a purpose and it is THEIR habitat,  I says it's theirs because they were here first.


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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593

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