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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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"Why Elizabeth Warren Would Lose To Trump"


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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: qman]
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Poll out today (B rating from 538):

Biden: 28
Bernie: 21
Warren: 14
Buttigieg: 8
Harris: 6


http://dfer.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/DFER-BSG-Polling-Results-9.12.19.pdf


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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Joe about to "play 'ole record player" to that lead, hombre. What.... was that(?)social workers need to make sure parents turn on a record player, lol


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Hopefully Biden talks himself into a hole, but like Trump, do his supporters care?

Young voters are the key to getting someone more progressive nominated. But it's hard to get them to vote and really hard to get them to vote in primaries.


I remain unconvinced that Jimmy Dore, at least up to now, has significant influence on our political scene.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Brian Jones]
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Given the perpetual Trump/Twitter/rants and said reactions liberals have....I would hope the Democratic base cares about what is said. There has been a lack of decorum recently,  so the bar can be raised.  I still think it would be conspiracy like suicide if the Dems choose Biden.


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“I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
I remain unconvinced that Jimmy Dore, at least up to now, has significant influence on our political scene.


I don't think anyone outside the corporate media has significant influence on our political scene.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Yes, so when you listen to fringe sources, you get "non representative ideas" for lack of a better term of what's going on with the voters. Not liking MSM is fine, but podcasts will get nobody elected. If they ever did get popular enough, they would stop using podcasts and become MSM.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
Have they changed their message at all? Cause right now I'm seeing that they will more likely try to put a Washiton elite on the ballot.  Just like last time.  Unless the superdeligates decide to back Sanders instead of Biden.

Have they tweeked their message?


No. Trump is still a Nazi. The Earth is still dying. Dems are still alienating the center and intentionally sabotaging candidates like Gabbard and Yang who threaten their preferred nominee. They are stuck in east Berlin with the wall of TDS and their socialist politics separating them from America.

I'm genuinely surprised Dems think they have a shot at beating Trump.


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"I found it is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay… small acts of kindness and love.” - Gandalf The Grey.

"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle

"I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagle's wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm HAMMERED DRUNK!" - Cal Naughton Jr. AKA The Magic Man. Abracadabra homes!

"Each tear is a drop of poison released." - Anonymous

"Could it be you're afraid of what your friends might say if they knew you believe in God above? They should realize before they criticize that God is the only way to Love."

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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
Yes, so when you listen to fringe sources, you get "non representative ideas" for lack of a better term of what's going on with the voters. Not liking MSM is fine, but podcasts will get nobody elected. If they ever did get popular enough, they would stop using podcasts and become MSM.


"but podcasts will get nobody elected"

Why not?  https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/ben0rp/is_joe_bigger_than_mainstream_media_here_is_the/

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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
Hopefully Biden talks himself into a hole, but like Trump, do his supporters care?

Young voters are the key to getting someone more progressive nominated. But it's hard to get them to vote and really hard to get them to vote in primaries.


I remain unconvinced that Jimmy Dore, at least up to now, has significant influence on our political scene.


It really will come down to turnout, especially in the primaries.


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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance." — Confucius

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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
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I'd vote for Biden over Trump but not Biden in the primary.  I think Biden will hurt the dem party worse.  Biden seems like a Yes man.

The dem party has done a lot to distance Bernie and that has lost a lot of peoples energy.  People will be numb enough to let the media influence them for Biden in the primary.  It's pretty much mk ultra repeat tapes.


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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Morel Guy]
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Fuck Biden is the word on the street


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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Brian Jones said:
Yes, so when you listen to fringe sources, you get "non representative ideas" for lack of a better term of what's going on with the voters. Not liking MSM is fine, but podcasts will get nobody elected. If they ever did get popular enough, they would stop using podcasts and become MSM.


"but podcasts will get nobody elected"

Why not?  https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/ben0rp/is_joe_bigger_than_mainstream_media_here_is_the/


I think that podcasts cater to the left and the right, people whose mind is already made up.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Brian Jones]
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People are entertained by exploring their own identity.  They feel it adds to their character.


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In filth it will be found in dung it will be found

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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Morel Guy]
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There was an interesting headline recently that 2 billion dollars will be spent this election cycle to try and sway about 6% of voters who haven’t made up their minds.

2 billion dollars


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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: Citizen X] * 1
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Most money the world spend goes into manipulation.  One way or another it's about manipulation.


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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
“Fuck those damn elites. That’s why I’m voting for the guy with the gold plated toilet on his private 727.”


Imagine hating rich people so you vote for those who hate America.

Children throwing a tantrum.  Get a job.


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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: LRG]
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LRG said:
Patlal said:
Have they changed their message at all? Cause right now I'm seeing that they will more likely try to put a Washiton elite on the ballot.  Just like last time.  Unless the superdeligates decide to back Sanders instead of Biden.

Have they tweeked their message?


No. Trump is still a Nazi. The Earth is still dying. Dems are still alienating the center and intentionally sabotaging candidates like Gabbard and Yang who threaten their preferred nominee. They are stuck in east Berlin with the wall of TDS and their socialist politics separating them from America.

I'm genuinely surprised Dems think they have a shot at beating Trump.


Only in your head bro.


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Re: How are the 2020 Democrats different from 2016? [Re: meltdowner] * 1
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https://twitter.com/wideofthepost/status/1177006052312846337?s=21


Warren now (predictably) pulling a Kamala Harris by furthering watering down her support for Medicare For All, calling it a framework. No, it’s a god damn 100 page bill that Bernie Sanders wrote and you didnt co sign.


“She’s better than Bernie!”
No
“Ok well she’s as good as Bernie”
No
“Ok well she’s good at things that Bernie isn’t”
No
“Ok well she has a better chance of beating Trump”
No
“Ok well you’re a sexist”


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