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Re: Antifa [Re: kd87]
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kd87 said:
Well I lived in west Fllorissant at the time. You can google map it. I left and moved out to my dream home "the sticks" too much violence just in general in north county/ stl county.



Hell yeah man.

You hunt?


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Re: Antifa [Re: kd87]
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Qman So you think the white nationalists who carried guns, clubs and chanted about dead Jews were *not* looking for a fight?

Kd: ah so you think the police violence against blacks by the ferguson police was less than committed by BLM?

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Re: Antifa [Re: kd87]
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Most of the violence does not come from the cops around there just some. 24 kids under 18 dead this year in and around st.louis county. Cops didn't do that. Actually at least one tried to save a life. 24 kids dead what a sick world. All of them black. Why don't black lives matter to some black people it's a real question why are people so focused on killing and hate and bullshit that is so irrelevant to who we actually are?

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Re: Antifa [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
kd87 said:
Well I lived in west Fllorissant at the time. You can google map it. I left and moved out to my dream home "the sticks" too much violence just in general in north county/ stl county.



Hell yeah man.

You hunt?




Absolutely do. Mostly Turkey and now and again dove and duck I have not homed in on deer yet. Oh and let's not forget about them frog legs. Still looking for a. Enter spot on that one though

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Re: Antifa [Re: kd87]
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Frog legs!

Amazing.


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Re: Antifa [Re: StygianKnight]
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StygianKnight said:
Qman So you think the white nationalists who carried guns, clubs and chanted about dead Jews were *not* looking for a fight?

Kd: ah so you think the police violence against blacks by the ferguson police was less than committed by BLM?



I think that it's about equal if a cop is a dick he is a dick to whites too. BLM didn't do the police violence they just Burt Dow qt. Ok qt is a big chain whatever but what about the small businesses that suffered lost money and were also burnt? And those are the places that, that community thrives on. Movements bring shit bags. You only feel sry for the people that were "so abused by the system" and don't care about the rest. biased

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Re: Antifa [Re: XUL]
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Haha I see!
So we’ve established people who have no problem with police abuse also think antifa are violent thugs based on their response to a white nationalist rally 2 years ago. Got it!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie

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Re: Antifa [Re: StygianKnight]
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Confused I never once said I condone police violence I oppose that shit. Let's get that strait befor we assume thing

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Re: Antifa [Re: kd87]
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God bless the u.s.a for freedom.

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Re: Antifa [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
StygianKnight said:
haha, the fascist police have classified a group who’s whole goal is to prevent extrajudicial executions by police because of course asking not to be murdered is extremism.

Charlottesville was a fascist white nationalist rally where a white nationalist murdered a woman protesting against it in a mass injury attack, and here we are talking about how violent antifa was at that literal same event and how no conservative groups are as violent.

Again, can you actually describe any of this violence committed by Antifa in any sort of detail?



The violence I witnessed was typical street mob attacks. It consisted of punching, kicking and throwing objects at people for no valid reason other than disagreeing with their political ideology.

Those people were obviously looking for a violent confrontation that day.



It wasn't a mere disagreement of ideology, it was community self-defence against hundreds of white supremacists and the threat of violence they brought.

This violence was on display the night before when a torch bearing mob, chanting "blood and soil" and "jews will not replace us", surrounded and attacked a dozen or so college students who arrived to counter protest this unpermited rally of neo-nazism on their campus.

This violence was also on display later the next day when one of the fascists intentionally drove their car into a large crowd of people, injuring dozens and killing Heather Heyer.

Self-defence is both a right and a duty. Charlottesville was self-defence. Antifascism is self-defence.


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Re: Antifa [Re: kd87]
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Do you oppose that shit by protesting, holding the police accountable?
Or only when you are called out for promoting the violent police narrative of BLM?

If youre not a white nationalist be aware youre spouting their propaganda.

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Re: Antifa [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Whether you like it or not, there are two sides to everything.


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Re: Antifa [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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StygianKnight said:
Do you oppose that shit by protesting, holding the police accountable?
Or only when you are called out for promoting the violent police narrative of BLM?

If youre not a white nationalist be aware youre spouting their propaganda.



To be honest I have been to protest but never once protested. For me it was about being aware of what's going on around me
shivas.wisdom said:
qman said:
StygianKnight said:
haha, the fascist police have classified a group who’s whole goal is to prevent extrajudicial executions by police because of course asking not to be murdered is extremism.

Charlottesville was a fascist white nationalist rally where a white nationalist murdered a woman protesting against it in a mass injury attack, and here we are talking about how violent antifa was at that literal same event and how no conservative groups are as violent.

Again, can you actually describe any of this violence committed by Antifa in any sort of detail?



The violence I witnessed was typical street mob attacks. It consisted of punching, kicking and throwing objects at people for no valid reason other than disagreeing with their political ideology.

Those people were obviously looking for a violent confrontation that day.



It wasn't a mere disagreement of ideology, it was community self-defence against hundreds of white supremacists and the threat of violence they brought.

This violence was on display the night before when a torch bearing mob, chanting "blood and soil" and "jews will not replace us", surrounded and attacked a dozen or so college students who arrived to counter protest this unpermited rally of neo-nazism on their campus.

This violence was also on display later the next day when one of the fascists intentionally drove their car into a large crowd of people, injuring dozens and killing Heather Heyer.

Self-defence is both a right and a duty. Charlottesville was self-defence. Antifascism is self-defence.




It's only self defense when one is being attacked

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Re: Antifa [Re: kd87] * 3
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Fascist police murder unarmed black men again and again.
Fascist police brutalize black and mexican men and women.
Fascist system protects them giving them a bonus.
Fascists around the country defend their ‘boys in blue’ creating blue lives matter to counteract the ‘violence’ of BLM.
Fascists call the police on black men and get them murdered on purpose for being black.
Fascists walk around black and mexican areas with military weapons as a show of force.
Fascists Get emboldened by a fascist narcissist who outright says he will pay the bail of
Fascists who violently attack anyone at his rally that doesn’t belong.
Fascists defend the right to hold citizens indefinitely at immigration points.

Fascists then hold a rally where violent right wing groups bring firearms while chanting hate slogans, a rally meant to unite groups that call for the eradication of impure blood.

Anti-Fascists Think “Fuck enough is enough lets counter protest!” 

Fascists then murder an anti fascist in a mass attack.

Fascists spend the next two years pointing at this antifa response as proof it’s antifa who are violent and they just innocent bystanders.  While of course trying to play down the fact that their hate slogans radicalized a murderer at their very event, as it doesn’t fit the whole ‘antifa are the real fascists’ narrative.

And sure if the first and only thing you’ve seen about the situation is antifa saying enough is enough, then of course it looks like they are the violent ones, but of course antifa is a reaction and that’s why we’re still talking about a 2 year old story, because antifa isn’t roving the streets with weapons like the white nationalists are, they are a reaction to a threat and when the threat is over, they go back to what they were doing.

If your first thought in the matter is ‘those poor innocent fascists being violently confronted by Antifa’ or ‘Well blacks/blm hurt their community more than the police.’ You are either a fascist or get your information from fascists because those are both white nationalist talking points.

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Re: Antifa [Re: kd87] * 1
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Antifascists of the Revolutionary Union of International Solidarity in Raqqa



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Re: Antifa [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Is kevin Jackson a white nationalist? https://theblacksphere.net/

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Re: Antifa [Re: kd87]
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Does he have white nationalist views or defend and protect white nationalists?  If so then yes, he’s a white nationalist. 
Taking a look at his anger filled meant to trigger conservatives site and history as a tea party member, I would say yes, he’s a white nationalist or at least is happy to play one for money.

I presume this is confusing since he’s black, but it’s not, it’s a survival technique, he’s hoping that by siding with them they will see him as an ally and they get a voice to legitimize their cause.

This isn’t anything new and is very much a one sided thing, white nationalists view white people who take on anti-racist or pro-black views as race traitors.

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Re: Antifa [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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shivas.wisdom said:
This violence was on display the night before when a torch bearing mob, chanting "blood and soil" and "jews will not replace us",




Exactly.  Before anyone was watching or listening, residents were being absolutely terrorized by the fascists the night before.

My friend's 73 year old mom called him, shaken and terrified, the night the fascists stopped in front of her house to chant Blood and Soil and Jews will not replace us.  He told her to bug out and come to his house the moment they moved away from her house.  She and her neighbors were freaked out big time by those torch carrying assholes as they started breaking windows and jumping on top of parked cars, stomping out the chants.

It wasn't just a different ideology, it was terrorizing the residents of the town before the main show even started the next day.

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Re: Antifa [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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shivas.wisdom said:
qman said:
StygianKnight said:
haha, the fascist police have classified a group who’s whole goal is to prevent extrajudicial executions by police because of course asking not to be murdered is extremism.

Charlottesville was a fascist white nationalist rally where a white nationalist murdered a woman protesting against it in a mass injury attack, and here we are talking about how violent antifa was at that literal same event and how no conservative groups are as violent.

Again, can you actually describe any of this violence committed by Antifa in any sort of detail?



The violence I witnessed was typical street mob attacks. It consisted of punching, kicking and throwing objects at people for no valid reason other than disagreeing with their political ideology.

Those people were obviously looking for a violent confrontation that day.



It wasn't a mere disagreement of ideology, it was community self-defence against hundreds of white supremacists and the threat of violence they brought.

This violence was on display the night before when a torch bearing mob, chanting "blood and soil" and "jews will not replace us", surrounded and attacked a dozen or so college students who arrived to counter protest this unpermited rally of neo-nazism on their campus.

This violence was also on display later the next day when one of the fascists intentionally drove their car into a large crowd of people, injuring dozens and killing Heather Heyer.

Self-defence is both a right and a duty. Charlottesville was self-defence. Antifascism is self-defence.



The conservatives can play stupid about this concept if they want, but they might consider letting some time pass before they go make this same argument in favor of violence against migrants in another thread.


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Re: Antifa [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
Whether you like it or not, there are two sides to everything.



I know. The Holocaust had two sides according to a lot of right wingers.


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