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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: koods]
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These symptoms sound a lot like nitrogen oxide or phosgene exposure


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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: koods]
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Breathing is pretty important.

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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: Seanm]
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it doesnt create just cyanide

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When heated, myclobutanil decomposes to produce corrosive and/or toxic fumes, including carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, hydrogen chloride, hydrogen cyanide, and nitrogen oxides




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Health Hazard
Excerpt from ERG Guide 151 [Substances - Toxic (Non-combustible)]:

Highly toxic, may be fatal if inhaled, swallowed or absorbed through skin. Avoid any skin contact. Effects of contact or inhalation may be delayed. Fire may produce irritating, corrosive and/or toxic gases. Runoff from fire control or dilution water may be corrosive and/or toxic and cause pollution. (ERG, 2016)



You've smoked contaminated weed before and you know its harsh and irritating in the smallest doses

feels like its cracking ur mucousa

Edited by cannabinated (09/07/19 05:00 PM)

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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: koods]
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I use a nicotine vape and have done for years. I make my own unflavored juice from lab grade ingredients and use a low powered device. I caught on very quickly that additives/flavourings and high temp vaping were bad news. I hear about the untested long term effects of vaping, but against the confirmed long term effects of smoking it's a simple choice for me.

I'm pretty sure there's a million things you could put in a vape that would make it deadly, just like there's a million things you could roll in a cigarette paper and light up that would do you wrong too.

It's like there is an established safety profile with vaping that people seem to think carries on no matter what they put in their vapes. Critical thinking skills are not a strong point with many people these days.


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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: Near Dylan]
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I vaped for a while in 2014-2015 but quit because I would experience strange lung pain at random times.
Def should of been more selective about where and the type of vape juice I got. I just kinda wrongly assumed if I'm buying professional looking bottles from a vape shop there would be some quality control.


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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: Near Dylan]
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The point i was trying to make ia the media loves acare tactics. If any new technology/trend has some kind of scary issue, it will show up in the news. Another example is when that self-driving car killed someone in Arizona.

Its the trend of mass stream news to scare people or to show the dangerous side of new technologies. I mean why wouldnt they, its both interesting and time-relevent.

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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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The news should keep that shit a secret.

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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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I get your point about media.  Yet reliable news sources have confirmed that can be pretty fucked up.

Not to be a depresser but, like ciggies, it seams their could be problems.  For the heavy users.  But much more quickly and just going by my own research.  Make up your own damn mind.  Lol.

Can't wait till mushrooms become legalized in Colorado.  My second hometown.  In nature we trust.  They used to believe long ago that the constituition include you could put whatever you want in your body.  It is, your body. 

All on rental with life and big brother of course really doesn't have one's best interest in mind.  Weird being conditioned that the law and those in authority are always right.  No, no they are not.

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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: Barnaby]
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Why Wonka I get and Dahl and Wilder and not the butchered P.C. garbage of paycheck Depp and Burton. 

Thought came to me on a whole different matter of a shit show that Depp's character was playing and vaping in some amazing CGI way.  And watching Primus and their critism of it and tour around the first one.

Way off topic.  So strange to re cognize ones thoughts.  Got so much shit last night at a bar, ignored them.  I feel like I am in an episode of Justified living in Utah.

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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: Barnaby]
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Why I posted this, I will never know.  Time to watch fear and loathing as it always makes me feel safer.

Vape away youngsters!  For those in the know to use an old term, stick with the classics in drug and smoke use.  Or not.  Your body is yours to chose in what to do with.  Shame, guilt, just do research and make up your own damn minds.

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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
I mean why wouldnt they, its both interesting and time-relevent.


Yeah so it goes without saying. There ofc are times where the media is blatantly milking something for a scare piece. Most of the time, maybe. Dont see what point it makes tho. Doesnt change the facts here. I dont care why they chose to report on it.


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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: cannabinated]
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cannabinated said:
it doesnt create just cyanide

Quote:
When heated, myclobutanil decomposes to produce corrosive and/or toxic fumes, including carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, hydrogen chloride, hydrogen cyanide, and nitrogen oxides




Quote:
Health Hazard
Excerpt from ERG Guide 151 [Substances - Toxic (Non-combustible)]:

Highly toxic, may be fatal if inhaled, swallowed or absorbed through skin. Avoid any skin contact. Effects of contact or inhalation may be delayed. Fire may produce irritating, corrosive and/or toxic gases. Runoff from fire control or dilution water may be corrosive and/or toxic and cause pollution. (ERG, 2016)



You've smoked contaminated weed before and you know its harsh and irritating in the smallest doses

feels like its cracking ur mucousa


You tend to make extremely speculative assessments about why your weed tastes funny or makes you feel strange.

I’m assuming that most thc extraction methods use something like butane or other aliphatic hydrocarbons.

Myclobutanil is not soluble in those solvents
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Soluble in common organic solvents, e.g. ketones, esters, alcohols and aromatic hydrocarbons, all 50 to 100 g/L. Insoluble in aliphatic hydrocarbons.



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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: koods]
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As someone looking for some genuine explanation for these deaths everything I continue to read seems like speculation. Recently many people people in my area have got a nasty respiratory infection. This has the potential to be a case of correlation not causation.


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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: Plain]
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Yes and in my area too. Very possible.. I didn't look at what period of time these 400+ cases were reported over.


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Re: Deaths from Vaping [Re: Near Dylan]
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Vaping always irritated my lungs instantly and would always make me couph.

I'm glad it did.

That made me turn to nicotine lozenges for years and now I have been using ZYN. It is tabbaco free & cancer free made up of salt base nicotine that is from Sweden.


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