RJ Tubs 202 said:
geokills said: ... the takeaway here would seem to be that one who wishes to use these products could minimize their risk by only buying cartridges from companies that have a track record and openly discuss their production techniques and safeguards for purity.
I've not heard anything about the sources / brands of cartridges people who have gotten sick were using. I've looked. It shouldn't be too hard if there is a trend, to see if there are certain brands that are contributing to most of the issues. Could it be random and not due to any particular brands?....
It can not be traced to certain brands/batches because this is not happening with products that are from the legal/regulated market, it is happening with the carts on the "street"/black market.
The issues are not occurring with cartridges that are "real", and I mean "real" as in cartridges that have actually been tested and are bought from a licensed weed store/distributor.
There is a huge amount of carts out there on the street/black market. They often come in packages that look legit, like as if they're the same product that is found in weed stores, sometimes they're even packaged in "brands" that are actually real brands found in legal states, but they are totally counterfeit/fake (as in not from a legal state, not from an actual weed store/distributor, not tested for pesticides or contaminants, etc...)...Anyone can purchase the packaging online, anyone can buy cheap empty "carts" online/from china, and then fill those carts with what ever they want.
The issues range from high concentrations of pesticides being found in the carts (if the herb is grown with pesticides, some of them will become more concentrated in extracts)....
...To "thinning agents" like vitamin-E being used and other substances that should not be vaped/inhaled.
....To synthetic cannabinoids being put into the carts (even a shroomery member said the carts he was getting contained synth-noids, he ended up having an intense reaction/overdose from the stuff, even the dude he got them off of told him they contained synth-noids)
To lead and other toxic/contaminated metals being used on the carts/coils
There is potential for all sorts of garbage to end up in carts....I absolutely do not trust any cart/pen that is sold on the street/black market, even if they're packaged in "legit" packaging and even if they have the "test results" printed on the label...Any packaging can be ordered online and those "test results" can be totally false/fake.
Cartridges bought from licensed weed stores/distributors are not an issue though. They are actually tested for all sorts of contaminants.
Long long before this started to happen, like several years ago when "carts" started to become a thing in the legal markets/states...Long ago I had a feeling this exact situation was going to happen on the "street market" with these carts...I totally saw this coming ,crystal clearly, years ago....I knew it wouldn't be long before synthetic cannabinoids were being put into them, and I knew it wouldn't be long before unsafe materials were being used, I knew it wouldn't be long before health issues started to arise from "vaping" pens/carts.
Quote: http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/eprp/Health%20Alerts/CDPHPulmonaryDiseaseandVaping081219.pdf
The California Department of Public Health (CDPH) issued a health alert on August 9 regarding a cluster of previously healthy adults with severe acute pulmonary disease who required hospitalization and respiratory support in a hospital in Kings County, CA. These cases, all identified since June 2019, appear to be related to vaping cannabis or cannabidiol (CBD) oils. At this time, no infectious etiology has been determined. Similar clusters among teens and young adults are being investigated in Wisconsin and Illinois. CDPH is working with the Centers for Disease Control to identify if there are common factors
Since June 2019, at least 7 cases of severe acute pulmonary disease in previously healthy adults were reported from a Kings County hospital. Cases were among residents of multiple counties. The patients presented with progressive respiratory distress, sometimes initially diagnosed with pneumonia or bronchitis, and some with preceding fevers and gastrointestinal symptoms. All cases failed to respond to an initial course of antibiotic treatment. All patients required admission to the hospital with significant respiratory support, including high-flow oxygen, bilevel positive airway pressure (BIPAP), or intubation with mechanical ventilation. Diagnoses included pneumonitis and acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS). Patients have improve with systemic steroids. Evaluation for infectious etiologies has been negative to date in all patients.
Quote: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/counterfeit-thc-vapes-cdc-vaping-health-alert-875931/?fbclid=IwAR2PTbEW7aV5p3NtWOoEN-oLCwhG56RIXFiqL5NeUy2-8wwbkBfCHYLL5NA
an 18-year-old male patient showed up to NYU Winthrop Hospital in Long Island complaining about chest pain, nausea, fever, and shortness of breath. Initially, doctors thought he had pneumonia, due to his X-rays showing “haziness” in the lungs. Within 48 hours, says Melodi Pirzada, chief of pediatric pulmonology at the hospital, the patient’s condition worsened and he was sent to the ICU. There he was diagnosed with ARDS, a condition associated with acute lung injury. He was connected to a breathing tube and placed in a medically induced coma for one week.
The doctors were baffled as to how a healthy 18-year-old could become so sick, until the patient’s mother showed up at the hospital with something she’d dug up from her son’s wastebasket. It was a vaporizer cartridge with the label TKO Extracts, a licensed company based in California that sells THC products; the cartridge was later confirmed to be a counterfeit version of the company’s product, Pirzada says.......
........Just one day later, a second patient showed up with completely different symptoms, including various nodules in the lungs; the 19-year-old suffered from coughing and chest pain, and had lost so much weight in the span of just two weeks that doctors initially suspected he had cancer. When a biopsy ruled that out, the patient said that he too had been using THC cartridges for the past three months, all of which had been purchased on the black market........
.....according to a spokesperson from the California Department of Public Health (CDPH). On August 12th, the CDPH released a health alert regarding a “cluster” of at least seven healthy adults in Kings County, California, all of whom had been admitted to hospitals between July and August 2019, and all of whom had presented with symptoms of severe acute pulmonary disease, including coughing and shortness of breath, and in some cases fever and vomiting. All seven of these cases — including an additional one reported following media coverage of the initial press release — were linked to THC vapes that had been purchased off the black market....
.....some common contaminants, according to the lab tests DankbustersOfficial has conducted alongside third-party cannabis testing company BelLabs, include pesticides like myclobutanil, a fungicide that, when vaporized, converts into hydrogen cyanide, a substance that is extremely toxic when inhaled and was used as a chemical weapon by the French army during World War I. There are also concerns that “heavy metals, such as lead, from the cartridge and its heating coils may also contaminate the products....
....Lab testing of Pirzada’s patient’s cartridge revealed that it tested positive for not just THC, but also vitamin E. If inhaled, oils like Vitamin E can cause lipoid pneumonitis, a rare condition that results from fat particles being inhaled into the lungs, says Pirzada. When she submitted the results to the Department of Health, it informed her that there were two other cases of THC cartridges testing positive for vitamin E oil.
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/counterfeit-thc-vapes-cdc-vaping-health-alert-875931/?fbclid=IwAR2PTbEW7aV5p3NtWOoEN-oLCwhG56RIXFiqL5NeUy2-8wwbkBfCHYLL5NA
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