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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: twighead]
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Here's some great footage of what horses are capable of from extreme heights



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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: twighead]
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twighead said:
koods said:
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People have survived jumping from airplanes with no parachutes,



Ur gonna need to back that shit up.



Why can't you just use google for once? :lol: This is like every thread

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=people+who+have+survived+falling+from+planes

there's only like 100+ articles and numerous examples of it



Can you find an example of som one who actually fell from an airplane without a parachute or some other assistance. I went through that entire list and none of them qualify for an actual free fall.

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A skydiver from Staffordshire plunged 6,000 ft without a parachute in Russia and survived to tell the tale. Hitting rocks at an estimate 100 kilometers per hour, miracle man 31-year-old James Boole, from Tamworth, was filming a TV documentary in Russia when his parachute launched only seconds to the groun



Like this dude ^ he had a parachute it just opened late.

You’re the one making silly claims. I shouldn’t have to go digging through the Internet looking for actual examples especially when from what I can see they’re all bullshit.


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Edited by koods (03/06/19 08:18 PM)

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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: koods]
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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
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A skydiver from Staffordshire plunged 6,000 ft without a parachute in Russia and survived to tell the tale. Hitting rocks at an estimate 100 kilometers per hour, miracle man 31-year-old James Boole, from Tamworth, was filming a TV documentary in Russia when his parachute launched only seconds to the groun



Like this dude ^ he had a parachute it just opened late.

You’re the one making silly claims. I shouldn’t have to go digging through the Internet looking for actual examples especially when from what I can see they’re all bullshit.



I guess you're just not very good at it :lol: No hard feelings, it's fun to research!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulovi - no parachute, 33,333ft (?) - was already wounded by a bomb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Alkemade - 18,000 no parachute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Chisov - 23,000 feet, passed out before he could open his chute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Magee ; - had already been injured by numerous shrapnel wounds, passed out from the altitude, then fell through a glass roof from 22,000 - no parachute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliane_Koepcke - Seat potentially saved her? 10,000ft - fell over Amazon, no parachute mother apparently survived plane breakup but died before being found(?)

There are other shorter falls recorded (say 400ft) which is still enough to surpass 100mph.

But yeah - of course, it requires a huge degree of luck, maybe a bit of skillful maneuvering, and the right landing environment (namely snow/trees/bushes/buildings with give (i.e. the glass roof), and sometimes water has worked)

And fyi living such a fall with a tangled parachute is still extremely significant (as is the case in many other situations) , as the airforce generally rates a 'streamer' - or wrapped improperly deployed parachute as reducing speed by only 10% - however simultaneously it will often prevent someone from getting into a proper sky-diving stance (which generally lowers fall speed to about 125mph-100mph) - hard to say exactly how fast you'd be going with such a minor reduction, but living a fall in which your velocity is well above 80-90mph is significant - and the accepted highly lethal (super-rapid) deceleration value is 55mph.


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: Nifflerz]
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Niffla said:
Why would people want to climb some of the already most dangerous mountains on earth in the Himalayas -- and dramatically increase their likelihood of dying by attempting these peaks in winter?

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Why do it? And I don't mean why do people climb mountains. I get that part. Climbers are naturally drawn to summits. But why attempt something like that in winter? Isn't the point to just reach the summit? Isn't trying something like that in winter like saying...I want to go into the most dangerous neighborhood in the US, and do it at midnight just to increase the chances I may get robbed and/or killed.




I don't know about this polish guy, but there is a lot to be said for winter mountaineering, especially when you ski/snowboard down. Descents that would take hours can be done in minutes, and are truly incredible. Just look at what people like Xavier De Le Rue and Jeremy Jones do for fun.







I think most aplinists aren't drawn to the mountains to inflate their egos. It is not about conquering the mountain, but communing with it. It is about pushing your limits, stepping outside of your comfort zone. Kind of like taking psychedelic drugs. Does it achieve anything? Does it matter? Depends on who you ask. Mountaineering is like a beautiful dance, a wild and dangerous form of art. Even stone statues will crumble, do they matter once they're gone?

In Hinduism there is a story of a prince who finds himself on the brink of battle. His father had recently died and his uncle was trying to steal the throne. The prince did not want to fight this battle. He was young and feared death, and to succeed would mean to kill many of his own family he had known and loved his whole life. He prayed to Krishna who told him that he must fight, but not for his ego to prove he is the better fighter, or for his desire to sit upon the throne. He must fight because it is his destiny. He is a warrior, and has trained his entire life for this moment. To kill or die in battle would be far better than running and never realizing his full potential, his purpose.

Buddhists spend days making incredibly intricate designs out of colored sand. When they are done they blow the sand into the wind. Everything is fleeting.

Seems to me that most of these people would rather die in the mountains, than live a life without them. Like how so many people risk their freedom, their jobs, and in some places their lives, just to get high.

When I used to live in a city I would go to dangerous neighborhoods late at night because the best fried chicken joint was there. It was more dangerous than ordering dominoes, but I wasn't going to live my life in fear. So I got high and ate fried chicken. That was the best chicken I've ever had.

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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
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Dr. P. Silocybin said:
When I used to live in a city I would go to dangerous neighborhoods late at night because the best fried chicken joint was there. It was more dangerous than ordering dominoes, but I wasn't going to live my life in fear. So I got high and ate fried chicken. That was the best chicken I've ever had.



:rofl:

Same though, with the oddly placed ghetto pho/indian/chinese joints that have probably seen a health inspection but are somehow always the dankest


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: twighead]
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The bodies were found.


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
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alpinists



I would never discriminate against the alps.


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: Nifflerz]
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No kidding! I'm surprised they were found.


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said:
No kidding! I'm surprised they were found.



tyrannicalrex said:
No kidding! I'm surprised they were found.



Becaons, I'm assuming.

We've had over 20 skiers/snowboarders get swallowed by avalanches here over the last month. 4 died, 16 were rescued.

GPS beacons and backpack avalanche airbags have made it a lot safer. Although death is quite inevitable when you can't move for days, can't use the snow as water, etc.
Although it's good to keep in mind this level of snowpack hasn't happened in the West in over 45 years.


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 1
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Coming from a climber here, the solitude and adversity you face on big climbs brings a sense of joy and adventure that not much else really compares to. The Alpine environment especially so. Psychedelic experiences can do the same mentally and spiritually for me as well. Also just being out in nature and exerting and challenging yourself is extremely enjoyable and therapeutic.

Also “Free Climbing” still means climbing with a rope and protection, just not pulling on gear or Aid-Climbing, meaning simply using your hands and feet to climb while being protected by gear and rope if/when you fall. If you’re referring to the style in which Alex Honnold occasionally does large climbs like the route up El Cap he did for the film with zero protection, no harness, no rope, or anything that’s called “Free Soloing”. Sorry, I know most non-climbers prob don’t care about the distinction anyway.


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said:
No kidding! I'm surprised they were found.



https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/missing-climbers-dead-pakistan-nanga-parbat-190310052308496.html

found 5,900 meters up Nanga Parbat


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: Nifflerz]
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mmmmm beacon

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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: kr0nik0]
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kr0nik0 said:
tyrannicalrex said:
No kidding! I'm surprised they were found.



tyrannicalrex said:
No kidding! I'm surprised they were found.



Becaons, I'm assuming.

We've had over 20 skiers/snowboarders get swallowed by avalanches here over the last month. 4 died, 16 were rescued.

GPS beacons and backpack avalanche airbags have made it a lot safer. Although death is quite inevitable when you can't move for days, can't use the snow as water, etc.
Although it's good to keep in mind this level of snowpack hasn't happened in the West in over 45 years.



Colorado has seen an ‘unprecedented’ avalanche onslaught in March


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: Godseed313]
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Godseed313 said:
Coming from a climber here, the solitude and adversity you face on big climbs brings a sense of joy and adventure that not much else really compares to. The Alpine environment especially so. Psychedelic experiences can do the same mentally and spiritually for me as well. Also just being out in nature and exerting and challenging yourself is extremely enjoyable and therapeutic.

Also “Free Climbing” still means climbing with a rope and protection, just not pulling on gear or Aid-Climbing, meaning simply using your hands and feet to climb while being protected by gear and rope if/when you fall. If you’re referring to the style in which Alex Honnold occasionally does large climbs like the route up El Cap he did for the film with zero protection, no harness, no rope, or anything that’s called “Free Soloing”. Sorry, I know most non-climbers prob don’t care about the distinction anyway.




I've only been climbing for a few years since I moved to the mountains, but it has become one of my favorite things in life.

The lovely people that introduced me to that world are all free climbers, and well, doing this now for a while has greatly humbled me.
The mountains here in the Southern Rockies are the most beautiful I've seen through 3 continents and climbing them is truly an honor. 

To be able to be one with them is special, therapeutic as you mentioned.

Free soloing though. That shit's crazy!


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: kr0nik0]
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I free solo sometimes, but It's not climbing a mountain, lol!


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Speaking from experince.

I live at around 7,000 feet.

A crazy snow blizzard is happening.

I helped 3 other drivers clear a pile up with my bare hands by pushing every single vehicle up the hill.

This lasted about 15-20 minutes.

Then I had about a quarter mile walk to my house and it probably 1,000ft elevation rise.

Once I made it inside my body went into shock. I'm just now coming out of it. My lungs feel like I just took a big dab, irritated, & congested. This feeling was crazy scary.

I could not image what kind of shock your body will go into trying to fucking climb that thing.




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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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We've gotten 26 inches at home (8,000) since 7pm last night from this same blizzard you're experiencing, but here in the SW corner.
At mountain pass level, some areas have recorded 75 inches since Monday!
Thankfully we don't have to contend with the wind as much here since the mountains surround me in a horseshoe shape, but the areas that are exposed...Holy shit. This is historic and 10 miles down the road to 6000 feet, there's not a speck of snow to be seen on the ground. 

For Denver it's still quite a storm, but nothing that hasn't happened before. Maybe 2008 was one as strong as this one, but never one with such low pressure has been recorded. ever.

Good on you for helping those people. This Winter caught everyone off guard after not really having one last season. SO people got rusty at winter driving, as did I. I've had to be pulled out at least 5 times this season in my 2wd truck.
And have pulled out at least the same amount of people with my 4wd truck.. Just on my street.
A one mile stretch of road.

Every day on the way to work that there's a storm like this, and it's been 1-2 times a week in this area since Christmas, there'll be 10-20 cars in the snowbanks along those 50 miles of road.

Now it's time for avalanche season!


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: kr0nik0] * 2
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I read on reddit this type of storm has the word "bomb" in it.

It's where the biometric pressure drops like 20 or 30 in less than 24 hours.

The article said this bombblizzard or whatever the fuck they called it was the first time the phenomenon has happened in Colorado.

It was really like a bomb went off. Winds gust was insane in some neighborhoods.


Funny thing is in 2016 I got trapped in a snow storm in New Mexcio during a mental breakdown and it finally let me to thinking the snow was nuclear fallout from a atomic bomb set off by russia.


God knows how bad I would have reacted if the news was calling that storm back in 2016 a technical name with the word bomb in it. I would have completely lost it. I still had like 3% of my mind telling me I was tripping but the 97% had control plus the whole fucking Glutin issue and LSD 2 weeks prior, & my dad dying 2 months prior did not help my mental state of mind along with some other crazy shit.


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Re: Why would anybody attempt to climb one of the most dangerous mountains on earth in winter? [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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I saw a pretty huge tree blown over on the way home. Back in 2015 I think it was a pretty good storm for 20-30 days in a row in Feb-March. Glad you're not in that van I bet!


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