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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: qman]
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Which is exactly why Government should step in.


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Which is exactly why Government should step in.


Ah, the truth comes out.

It is about control.


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: XUL] * 1
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It's about:

When you make a mess, you clean it up.

With power comes responsibility.

When America leads the world follows...

...well they did. :shrug:


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: XUL]
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You and qman said you couldn't give two shits about a future climate catastrophe, so yes, a certain level of control is good.

If you thought it was fun to set forest fires because you couldn't give two shits about the potential impact, then the Government should make setting forest fires illegal (which they have).


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I advocate for states to take matters into their own hands.

Would you be okay with that?


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
You and qman said you couldn't give two shits about a future climate catastrophe, so yes, a certain level of control is good.

If you thought it was fun to set forest fires because you couldn't give two shits about the potential impact, then the Government should make setting forest fires illegal (which they have).


It's not that I don't give two shits about "a future climate catastrophe", I just don't think we have too many options available when it comes to energy usage and I also don't think there's necessarily "a future climate catastrophe" as a result of what we're doing today.

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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
I advocate for states to take matters into their own hands.

Would you be okay with that?


I will never understand this conservative obsession with state governments. 

How would leaving the solutions to climate change up to each state better solve climate change?


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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It could be better or worse.

At least it will keep power out of the government's hands.


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: XUL]
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Alot of the GND is about infrastructure projects. Sort of like the wall.

How about we stack solar panels on top of the wall!

I just solved America!


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
It could be better or worse.

At least it will keep power out of the government's hands.


How are state governments not governments? Most of the laws that affect your life everyday are state laws.

What a strange reality conservatives live in

The fact is when it comes to regulations, the laws that affect Americans lives the most are passed in California. Industry has to comply with California laws and because California has the largest population and the biggest economy, the rules that California sets are adopted nationwide by industry.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (02/15/19 05:41 PM)

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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: Thundermuscle75]
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Hehe

Count me in on the wall part.

But I'm keeping my cars.


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Edited by XUL (02/15/19 05:39 PM)

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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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XUL said:
I advocate for states to take matters into their own hands.

Would you be okay with that?


I agree with what The Ecstatic previously said.
The Ecstatic said:
Leaving it up to the states (which are governments too by the way) means that absolutely no progress will happen in red states... it renders the progress made in other states/countries useless.



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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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US States By Carbon-dioxide Emissions Per Capita

CO2 emissions per capita (in metric tons)

1 Wyoming 111.55
2 North Dakota 74.81
3 West Virginia 52.47
4 Alaska 47.17
5 Louisiana 44.50
6 Montana 31.51
7 Kentucky 31.19
8 Indiana 30.81
9 Nebraska 27.51
10 Oklahoma 26.92
11 Iowa 26.78
12 Texas 26.29
13 Alabama 25.05
14 New Mexico 24.07
15 Kansas 23.97
16 Arkansas 23.13
17 Utah 21.90
18 Missouri 21.66
19 Mississippi 21.28
20 Ohio 19.75
21 Pennsylvania 18.94
22 Illinois 18.12
23 South Dakota 17.91
24 Wisconsin 17.47
25 Minnesota 17.24
26 States Total 17.04
27 Colorado 16.95
28 Michigan 16.31
29 Tennessee 15.69
30 South Carolina 15.39
31 Delaware 14.24
32 Arizona 13.79
33 Georgia 13.76
34 Nevada 13.02
35 Hawaii 12.82
36 New Jersey 12.78
37 North Carolina 12.64
38 Maine 12.52
39 Virginia 12.42
40 Florida 11.41
41 New Hampshire 11.25
42 Washington 10.40
43 Maryland 10.38
44 Idaho 10.18
45 Rhode Island 10.08
46 Connecticut 9.77
47 Oregon 9.56
48 Massachusetts 9.49
49 Vermont 9.38
50 California 9.26
51 New York 8.61
52 District of Columbia 4.55


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Another indicator that this is about government power.


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: XUL] * 1
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What exactly stops Trump from declaring global warming to be a national emergency
then building the wall out of solar panels, slanted in such a way as to be more difficult to climb?

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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: Tantrika]
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Tantrika said:
What exactly stops Trump from declaring global warming to be a national emergency
then building the wall out of solar panels, slanted in such a way as to be more difficult to climb?


It's a good idea as long as the government doesn't force us to give up cars..

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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
It could be better or worse.

At least it will keep power out of the government's hands.


What? How?

You realize the states have governments right?


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
Another indicator that this is about government power.


I don't know why you're so strongly against the Government making our lives better.  I don't mind clean air, education, defense, sanitation, Social Security, etc.


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
Tantrika said:
What exactly stops Trump from declaring global warming to be a national emergency
then building the wall out of solar panels, slanted in such a way as to be more difficult to climb?


It's a good idea as long as the government doesn't force us to give up cars..


Do you really believe they will be selling cars with internal combustion engines in 15 years?


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Re: Does global warming warrant giving the government more power? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Governments have a bad history of going tyrannical. They can get too powerful and infringe on God given freedoms.

I would rather err on the side of 50 states. The government and Constitution exists simply to protect us while we thrive in any way we see fit.

States can be responsible.


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