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Offlinekosmic_charlie
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'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever
    #2579702 - 04/19/04 10:31 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I thought this article  was kind of interesting:

We Built This City is the single worst single ever constructed, according to Blender's ranking of reeking tunes.

The magazine's list of "The 50 Worst Songs Ever," which hits newsstands Tuesday in New York and Los Angeles and April 27 nationwide, distills the lamest popular rock-era records into one sonic landfill.

Starship's 1985 anthem, the runaway No. 1 stinker, "seems to inspire the most virulent feelings of outrage," editor Craig Marks says. "It purports to be anti-commercial but reeks of '80s corporate-rock commercialism. It's a real reflection of what practically killed rock music in the '80s."

Also sealing the song's fate were Starship's steep fall from grace as the admired Jefferson Airplane and "the sheer dumbness of the lyrics," Marks says.

The May issue, a sequel to the 2003 roundup of history's worst bands, coincides with a Blender/VH1 special, The 50 Most Awesomely Bad Songs Ever, which airs May 12.

Harvesting clunkers that range from The Doors' The End to Aqua's Barbie Girl entailed more digging than expected.

Each dud had to be a hit to make the hit list. Though Right Said Fred's I'm Too Sexy got in, such novelties as Macarena and Who Let the Dogs Out, which by design are cheesy, were nixed. The jury also whittled down the bulk of "rotten, excruciatingly bad low-hanging fruit from the '70s," Marks says.

Blender had no qualms about riding herd on sacred cows, inducting The Beatles' Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da, R.E.M (news - web sites).'s Shiny Happy People and John Mayer (news)'s Your Body Is a Wonderland. The entry most likely to peeve fans is Simon & Garfunkel's The Sounds of Silence.

"It's the freshman-poetry meaningfulness that got our goat," Marks says. "With self-important lyrics like, 'Hear my words that I might teach you,' it's almost a parody of pretentious '60s folk-rock.

"If Frasier Crane wrote a song, this would be it."

To accommodate coming horrors, the list can't be considered definitive. Noting that Clay Aiken's Invisible landed at No. 11, Marks predicts that "as soon as the American Idol season is finished, there will be a new entry."

:wexican:
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I agree that We Built this City is a Horrible song.  Damn and to think that Starship morphed out of Jefferson Airplane is beyond my comprehension.  I love The Beatles but I'm actually glad to see Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da mentioned in that article.  That song always irked me.  Although there are more annoying Beatles songs (think early).  And I am a little peaved to see Sounds of Silence mentioned.  WTF!?  I love that song.  Never heard John Mayer's Your Body Is a Wonderland.  Sounds sexy.


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Re: 'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #2579843 - 04/19/04 10:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

JOhn Mayer is an Australian musician (I think...) and we are bombarded with his music on every commercial radio station several times per day. Your Body Is a Wonderland is a truly awful song, it's just bloody stupid. With lyrics like "I'm invincible as long as I'm alive" it's a wonder anyone takes him seriously.

Oh well. You can probably download it if you really want to put yourself through some agonizing aural torture.


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Re: 'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever [Re: woleb]
    #2579893 - 04/19/04 11:01 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yes I might have to download it. I've been hearing his name a lot lately but never heard him. Maybe that song will be a good introduction and I'll know to stay far away.


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Re: 'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #2581542 - 04/20/04 07:49 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The reason they sucked as the Starship is becuase their two most creative members had left to form Hot Tuna. Starship was just a pop band. :devil:


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Re: 'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever [Re: chinacat72]
    #2583836 - 04/20/04 06:55 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, once Jack and Jorma left, it pretty much sucked -- with the possible exception of the very first starship album, but even that one wasn't great... There were also those couple of early mixed-solo efforts like "Baron Von Toolbooth and the Chrome Nun" from around that time, but my only copies of those are on vinyl, and in storage in a distant state. I can't even remember what they sound like anymore...


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Re: 'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #2583858 - 04/20/04 07:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Harvesting clunkers that range from The Doors' The End to Aqua's Barbie Girl entailed more digging than expected.




Whoa! The kind didn't like "The End"?!!! :shocked:

PS: I agree that Simon and Garfunkle are, in a way, the worst of pseudo folk-rock, but they were damned good at it, and I do like their songs musically, but then I like a lot of pop songs that some people would say are vapid and lacking of true content. However, good song writing is still good song writing, and they are now part of our collective memory. I can't think of a better song for the Mike Nichols film, "The Graduate," which was a seminal work in the history of a changing American cinema in the 1960s...


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Re: 'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever [Re: Papaver]
    #2583944 - 04/20/04 07:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Really they dont know much if they think Simon n Garfunkle werent talented,The Boxer is still one of my favorite tunes and still get goose bumps when i listen to it....They were liked by young and old alike back in the `60`s


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Re: 'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever [Re: OldSpice]
    #2584012 - 04/20/04 07:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

They put The Beatles, The Doors, and Simon & Garfunkle tunes on the worst 50 worst songs ever? Something seems wrong with that...there are millions of songs that deserve that title over all those songs, which all 3 of them I like! No wonder music is heading down the toilet; they're criticizing music that actually had depth and melodies while praising musicians that bang on 3 power chords while spouting jibberish. Sigh.


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Re: 'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #2584050 - 04/20/04 08:05 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, so I was driving to the little country store -- to buy some of that high-octane, cheap, malt liquor, that I like -- and I was doing some thinking (I do some of my best thinking driving to the store to buy cheap malt liquor), and the following comments were really bothering me...

Quote:

The entry most likely to peeve fans is Simon & Garfunkel's The Sounds of Silence.

"It's the freshman-poetry meaningfulness that got our goat," Marks says. "With self-important lyrics like, 'Hear my words that I might teach you,' it's almost a parody of pretentious '60s folk-rock.

"If Frasier Crane wrote a song, this would be it."




Then, it occurred to me what was wrong with what he said, and it is the following...

If Frasier Crane wrote a Simon & Garfunkle song, it would NOT be the "The Sound of Silence," with its oblique references to larger societal issues and a person's place within that society during turbulent times -- he's not that political. Frasier Crane would have written, "The Dangling Conversation," an intimate, interpersonal, rumination, replete with literary name dropping, and a detailed picture of bourgeois domesticity. Think about it...

Whereas, it might be possible that Frasier would also pen, "Goodbye Frank Llyod Wright," I sincerely doubt it. No, if Frasier Crane were to write a Simon & Garfunkle song, it would be the following:

The Dangling Conversation
by Paul Simon
(c) 1966 Paul Simon (BMI)

It's a still life watercolor,
Of a now late afternoon,
As the sun shines through the curtained lace
And shadows wash the room.
And we sit and drink our coffee
Couched in our indifference,
Like shells upon the shore
You can hear the ocean roar
In the dangling conversation
And the superficial sighs,
The borders of our lives.

And you read your Emily Dickinson,
And I my Robert Frost,
And we note our place with bookmarkers
That measure what we've lost.

Like a poem poorly written
We are verses out of rhythm,
Couplets out of rhyme,
In syncopated time
And the dangling conversation
And the superficial sighs,
Are the borders of our lives.

Yes, we speak of things that matter,
With words that must be said,
"Can analysis be worthwhile?"
"Is the theater really dead?"

And how the room is softly faded
And I only kiss your shadow,
I cannot feel your hand,
You're a stranger now unto me
Lost in the dangling conversation.
And the superficial sighs,
In the borders of our lives.


PS: This is the only song of the Simon & Garfunkle cannon which has ever really bothered me, and I think I'm beginning to figure out why. My thanks to the misguided music critic who put me on the trail of my discontent... :wink:


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Re: 'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #2584903 - 04/21/04 12:08 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What pisses me off most is that this one journalists opinion on certain songs will affect many many people. I mean shit, the article is in a magazine, and if it's in a magazine, THEN IT MUST BE TRUE!! GASP!! AHH!! GASP!!!

Jesus Christ, this is so pathetic. The guy rates "The End" and "Sound of Silence" as some of the worst songs in history... what an ignorant fuck. Although he does hit the bullseye with many songs -- but they don't count because a 2 year old child could've picked them out. (They're that obvious)

I can guarentee you guys that this journalist masturbates listening to Micheal Jacksons albums.


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Re: 'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever [Re: kosmic_charlie]
    #2585506 - 04/21/04 02:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm glad someone finally said it. I always hated that damn song! How the FUCK do you build a city on rock and roll?? What the hell does that mean? Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. And the music sucked too.

I don't understand why 'The End' made the list. I first heard it while watching 'Apocalypse Now' when they were napalming the palm trees...the scene was shot in slow motion. Great movie making. Great song and don't let anybody tell you any different.

The people that made the list seem to focus too much on the lyrics. The music is what makes a song- the lyrics are secondary. He picked one line out of the great Simon & Garfunkel's The Sounds of Silence and lost site of the fact that that is a great song with a unique sound.


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Re: 'We Built This City' Ranks as Worst Record Ever [Re: Jellric]
    #2597352 - 04/24/04 08:30 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)


Proof that a city cannot be built on rock & roll


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