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WBS failing to colonize -- dryness?
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I'm doing Doc's WBS Tek using G2G from a friend's jars. The jars have now been sitting for 3 weeks, and have been shaken twice.  Unfortunately, most of the jars only colonized about 90%, with one side appearing to have stalled (I'm posting a picture of two sides of a typical jar, the colonized one and the stalled one, as well as a closeup of the dry-looking seed).  I live in a very dry climate and used a "heat bomb" for warming, and it seems to me (from the way it looks) that the WBS that won't colonize is simply dried out.

Three weeks seems like more than enough for G2G. I'm thinking of washing off the uncolonized birdseed with cold water and then spawning the rest to a coir monotub.  Is this a risky move? Should I wait and hope that the rest colonizes?


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Re: WBS failing to colonize -- dryness? [Re: woworwow]
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thats a drag dude. that spawn is fucked:sad:

dont use heat bombs either:nono:

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Re: WBS failing to colonize -- dryness? [Re: mushboy]
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Get rid of the loose grain and spawn the colonized grain...what’s the worst that could happen:shrug:

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Re: WBS failing to colonize -- dryness? [Re: Thesunbeam]
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:ilold:

The worst?


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Re: WBS failing to colonize -- dryness? [Re: mushboy]
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Thanks for the info.

Are heatbombs known for drying things out? Or is there some other reason they're inferior?

Also, what's the minimum amount of colonized WBS needed for a successful spawn to 1 brick of coir? (Two of the quarts colonized completely, I could just try using those...)

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Re: WBS failing to colonize -- dryness? [Re: mushboy]
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Sure the worst happen could but what if it’s fine and it is just too dry ...then it would be a waste for no good reason

Edited by Thesunbeam (11/26/18 07:48 AM)

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Re: WBS failing to colonize -- dryness? [Re: Thesunbeam]
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Just wanted to give an update -- I spawned these jars to 2 coir monotubs.  The monotubs colonized partially on their surface, one about 50% and one about 10%.  After FAE, the 50% is giving a nice harvest, and the 10% also has some fruits growing.  Not sure why they didn't totally colonize the WBS or coir, but so far no signs of contamination.

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Re: WBS failing to colonize -- dryness? [Re: woworwow]
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look closer at those pictures of the grain jars. see how the third one has all those dark spots where the grains are clinging to the jar despite being colonized and grown out for a bit? those wet looking spots are sign of bacteria. that big uncolonized spot is another - bacteria can block shroom growth if its heavy. from what i've seen, grains may be initially touching the jar and leaving a small "dark spot" at first while the mycelium colonizes them, but as they grow out it pulls away from the jar and fully colonizes, as the mycelium consumes it. that big area of fully white colonized mycelium that still contains dark spots is a bad sign.

the fact they didn't colonize fully in the monotub is another. if there's any weird smells, like apple cider vinegar or sour smells, that's a very bad indicator of bacteria. (the actual smell will vary depending on what kind of bacteria it is.) anything that's not healthy mycelium smell is a bad sign of contamination.

also, shrooms like temperatures that you like. high 60s to mid 70s are great. anything higher than the high-mid 70s (because mycelium also creates a bit of its own warmth due to metabolism) means you're just going to get slower growth while bacteria goes nuts if there's contamination.


Edited by Psion (12/26/18 05:44 PM)

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