tyrannicalrex said:

GTRchick said:

I feel that some people are trying too push for acceptance and others are strongly rejecting but both are forming their opinions based on emotional response  and not logical one.

Will add to this later

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I'm listening.

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Shroomism said:

I'm not saying it's the same for everyone and I'm not trying to minimize anyone's struggles.
What I am saying is that you should take control for the things that ARE in your control.
There's always going to be factors holding you back, roadblocks or things that are completely out of your control but you must persevere in the face of adversity!

Just when I hear someone complaining that the place they live is bigoted or whatever... I can relate from my own experience. All I'm doing is sharing what worked for me. People can take it or leave it. I know it's not easy and there may be things in the way. But if it's between eternally rotting away in a place you despise or taking a chance in a different environment, I know what I'd pick. The point is you don't have to become a victim to circumstance you can take steps to improve it.

I just find it funny when people assume I must be privileged or come from a privileged background because of my racial identity, as if that's the only thing that defines someone..... that's the only reason I shared some of my experiences (without going into details), because it seemed pretty obvious to me you were trying to say I have no idea what the struggles of LGBT people are like, when I've experienced some of the exact same things and lived among them for a good chunk of my life. I'm not minimizing anything. LGBT people aren't the only people with these types of struggles. While they may experience things in a different way, I don't think one is "greater" than the other.

I'm saying take control of your life, what you ARE able to control. That doesn't mean trying to force society to change around you, even if that's a noble goal. My struggles made me a stronger person, able to face almost any adversity head on. A little difficulty is good for you. Trying to force society to accept you though, seems like a losing proposition to me. When I had long hair down to my shoulders, I got discriminated against ALL THE FREAKING time. Jobs would look once and turn you down. People in public will misgender you constantly or make fun of you. I could either be pissed at society and try to force them to change to accept me for who I was... or adapt... or find a company that is accepting of it. Or just let it roll off my back because some people are just judgemental single-minded morons whose opinions don't matter, so fuck them. There's always options.

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Shroomism said:

... I did have long ass hair for most of life.. and as a guy in the 90s that brought a lot of stigma with it. I'd wager the same type of people that would make fun of guys for long hair or give you weird ass looks would also make fun of gay/trans people. Perhaps that's a false equivalence, but from my estimation that's about the closest thing I can relate to. ...

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Well, my best friend in high school was a metal head who got jumped simply for sticking up for me
so you may not be far from the mark

Shroomism said:

...But to answer your question I'd probably consider I used to have roughly the same amount of options, but now even less because my beliefs don't fall in the line with the new hard left which seems to have taken over many cities. Funny enough in some cities once considered to be the most "tolerant" and progressive (like Austin TX, or Asheville, NC), is where I experienced some of the harshest discrimination, but it was coming from so-called leftist progressives.

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Tantrika said:

Well, my best friend in high school was a metal head who got jumped simply for sticking up for me
so you may not be far from the mark

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Us metalheads are known for sticking up for the little guys and downtrodden in society like some in here would probably want you to believe I'm a bigoted trans-gay hater or some shit, because I have my own thoughts. We aren't known for being particularly politically correct. But I'll stand up for anyone in real life if they are being abused or taken advantage of. I don't take shit from anyone and I really don't like it being delivered to anyone especially those that didn't deserve it or can stand up for themselves. Shits infuriating.

Shroomism said:

Whhhhhaaaaaaatttt??? Facts and a couple paragraphs too hard to wrap your simple brain around? Can't do anything but come up with personal insults without ever addressing a point? Whhhhaaaaaaaattt?

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Shroomism said:

like some in here would probably want you to believe I'm a bigoted trans-gay hater or some shit, because I have my own thoughts.

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"all muh' haters" "people don't like me cuz i speak my mind n say wut i want" "blah blah blah"

All of that is such a cop out, get over yourself.

GTRchick said:

tyrannicalrex said:

GTRchick said:

I feel that some people are trying too push for acceptance and others are strongly rejecting but both are forming their opinions based on emotional response  and not logical one.

Will add to this later

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I'm listening.

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Sorry I got busy and forgot about adding to this.

What I mean is people seem to argue with their emotions, meaning people want people  to accept LGBT community because their emotional side tells them that we should accept people for who they are. I sometimes think that it isn't always in the best interest for humans to accept everything. I think sometimes we have to take our emotions out of the picture and look at the damage that acceptance could cause.

For example it isn't natural to want to change your sex and I believe there should be more research done on why this is happening. Is their a fault in our genes? Has something happened to that persons brain wiring? We know pedos brain fires up differently to normal humans and I wonder do trans brain fire differently? Is there a way to prevent this. Yet, instead we have DRs giving young teenagers hormones.

I disagree with parents saying their children will determine what sex they will be. It sounds like we are heading towards an even more confused generation.

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