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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: MagicMush123]
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No not that many. It could be a job losing proposition to go against the govt don't you think?

Explain to me how molten steel poured out? I'm still waiting for the links to any steel frame building that collapsed due to fire. All I hear is crickets. Plus all the other stuff that does not add up.

All I hear is "durrrr govt said so"


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Are we spouting controversial opinions or having discussion?


For minor criminal violations that involve no victimization it should be optional for the suspect to opt for getting their ass beat at the police station with a paddle - as an alternative punishment for shortterm incarceration or sizable fines.

If it turns out the suspect is not deterred or even encouraged by this prospect  :spank: the option is removed.

I'm sure plenty of cops kinda like this idea :cophappy: but it offers a good alternative to the suspect and helps weed out the sadistic fucks among the police force - who should be fired.


how is it a crime if there's no victim?

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Stonehenge] * 2
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Stonehenge said:
No not that many. It could be a job losing proposition to go against the govt don't you think?

Explain to me how molten steel poured out? I'm still waiting for the links to any steel frame building that collapsed due to fire. All I hear is crickets. Plus all the other stuff that does not add up.

All I hear is "durrrr govt said so"


There was no molten steel

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: MagicMush123]
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Yeah, wtf is this guy talking about?

And an event doesn't have to occur more than once to prove that it happened at least once. That's a fallacy.

This has all been conclusively debunked

Edited by Apples in Mono (04/14/18 08:08 PM)

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Apples in Mono]
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Yea lol. And  now that it happened on 911. We can safely say that it is possible and it could happen again

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: MagicMush123]
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what steel? There are videos of it happening. I keep asking what steel frame building collapsed from a mere fire? All I hear is 'durrrr durrr I believe it'. Steel frame buildings have burned for days on end without collapsing. Show me one that fell at free fall speed that was not demo'd?

#7 wasn't even hit by a plane, just caught on fire and all at once collapsed. If you guys do not want to do the investigating and prefer to take the word of a troll or the govt, its your loss.

You probably think oswald was the lone shooter right? And assad used gas to make sure he got the crap bombed out of him.


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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: MagicMush123]
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MagicMush123 said:
Yea lol. And  now that it happened on 911. We can safely say that it is possible and it could happen again



And apparently it was an uncommon building type with particular features that facilitated the ultimate collapse. Also, they say it very likely wouldn't have collapsed if the sprinkler system hadn't failed due to the initial damage from the impact of the debris from the towers

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Stonehenge]
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Show us the molten steel, dude

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Apples in Mono]
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there's plenty of info on this

https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/thermal.r09.html

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Apples in Mono]
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Weak, feeble to the point of death. No that will not cover it

What, all you expert googlers can't find me even 1 one single example where it happened before? Explain to me what happened to the steel support beams in 7? Lets just focus on 7 right now. I think we can agree it had a steel frame and steel support columns. How did an office fire cause all of them to fail at once?

Look in the twin towers thread in conspiracies. All the videos are there.


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
I keep asking what steel frame building collapsed from a mere fire?


WTC 7

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
Weak, feeble to the point of death. No that will not cover it

What, all you expert googlers can't find me even 1 one single example where it happened before? Explain to me what happened to the steel support beams in 7? Lets just focus on 7 right now. I think we can agree it had a steel frame and steel support columns. How did an office fire cause all of them to fail at once?

Look in the twin towers thread in conspiracies. All the videos are there.


How many other buildings have had planes fly directly into them? And was left to burn for hours on end?

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: unam sanctum]
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unam sanctum said:
there's plenty of info on this

https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/thermal.r09.html


That link doesn't corroborate molten steel or temperatures anywhere near the melting point of steel. If there's plenty of supporting info then why not link to it instead of to this?

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Apples in Mono]
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Apples in Mono said:
unam sanctum said:
there's plenty of info on this

https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/thermal.r09.html


That link doesn't corroborate molten steel or temperatures anywhere near the melting point of steel. If there's plenty of supporting info then why not link to it instead of to this?


5 days afterwards and the temps were exceeding 800 degrees farenheit.  depending on the steel, melting temps are approx. 1000 to 1200 degrees.  ok then.

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: unam sanctum]
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The fires continued to burn for many more days than that. And you're simply incorrect about the melting point of steel.


"The lowest temperature at which a plain carbon steel can begin to melt, its solidus, is 1,130 °C (2,070 °F). Steel never turns into a liquid below this temperature. Pure Iron ('Steel' with 0% Carbon) starts to melt at 1,492 °C (2,718 °F), and is completely liquid upon reaching 1,539 °C (2,802 °F"

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Apples in Mono]
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Apples in Mono said:
unam sanctum said:
there's plenty of info on this

https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/thermal.r09.html


That link doesn't corroborate molten steel or temperatures anywhere near the melting point of steel. If there's plenty of supporting info then why not link to it instead of to this?


911 theories are myths made up of loose facts.  Its pretty easy to be fooled at first to be honest. Even i fell for it at first.  I'd love to sit here and talk conspiracies but ive a poker game to get to

:goodluckwiththat:

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Apples in Mono]
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I was thinking of the point at which steel starts to fail, which is 1100 Fahrenheit.

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: unam sanctum]
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Exactly. Steel with reduced integrity isn't molten steel. The former is what we had on 9/11, and is perfectly consistent with the temperatures reached in building fires

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Vegemite is better than Marmite.


Get f*cked! vegemite is ass

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Re: Controversial opinion time [Re: Apples in Mono]
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https://www.ae911truth.org/

Edited by unam sanctum (04/14/18 09:17 PM)

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