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Hopefully going back to college soon. And I just was looking up some random shit and came across some stuff about ecology and through looking deeper into that came across plant taxonomy and that sounds right up my alley and that never happens when I think of studying anything and making it a career. I would like doing something like that.  My mind is great at storing useless information and I think I’d bd great at learning all the different plants names and such and applying it to different projects.  I searched jobs in ecology and jobs in plant taxonomy and it seems like there are plenty to choose from and I came across an article that says jobs in ecology are expected to grow substantially in the near future.   

Question.  Does anyone here have experience studying these? Or better yet have a degree in one of them? Is it true that I would have a good chance of finding career worthy job with such a degree?

I’m also interested in botany but haven’t looked into the kind of jobs available for people who make that their main discipline. I think I would lock in the ecology degree and then study whatever’s required for plant taxonomy and then move on to botany.    Idk if student financial aid will cover the spread don’t know how it all works really but this is the best plan I’ve come up with. Seems much more plausible and personally fulfilling than pursuing some psych degree. 

Am I wrong?

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Re: Need opinions [Re: NOUS333]
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Have just a little experience in plant taxonomy and botany, but I can confidently say that there are scarce job prospects in those fields outside of academia.

If you want slightly better job security ecology would be the way to go. You could always specialize in taxonomy during a grad program if you choose to, but integrating that subject into ecology will be difficult.

You should start asking yourself what you really find interesting in this discipline rather than conforming your skill set to it. That will guide you down a more fulfilling path.

Also I recommend you look into plant tissue culture as another possibility. Tissue culturing is one of the few industries with an axiom in botany that has been growing steadily over the past 5 years. Involves a combination of the taxonomy, physiology, and biochemistry of plants to produce stable phenotypes of various plants on a mass scale.

Hope this helps. By the way how long has it been since you've taken a college class?


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College is a trap. They'll want to hook you in and sell you useless information by the ton. Beware of signing up for ANYTHING that doesn't lead directly to a hard skill in the real world. Otherwise you're wasting your time. "But what about altruism, social justice, a meaningful life, a career "helping others"? It's all political indoctrination to get you on board with their "progressive" agenda. You know how many rewarding and meaningful careers there are out there? Damn few.
Fuck. That. Shit.
None of the idealistic garbage plays out in the real world. How about knowledge for its own sake? Aesthetic, artistic, philosophical inquiries, are best pursued at your leisure, and on your own time. Do this stuff for the love of it. It can fill your soul, but not your wallet.
Perhaps this sounds cynical. It is. But I've seen too many people get sucked in. They go in with the best intentions, work hard, spend a fortune, come out with a paper, and find they have no marketable skill. That's why your barrista has a degree in climatology with a minor in ethnic studies.

JWM

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Yukon Cornelius said:
Have just a little experience in plant taxonomy and botany, but I can confidently say that there are scarce job prospects in those fields outside of academia.

If you want slightly better job security ecology would be the way to go. You could always specialize in taxonomy during a grad program if you choose to, but integrating that subject into ecology will be difficult.

You should start asking yourself what you really find interesting in this discipline rather than conforming your skill set to it. That will guide you down a more fulfilling path.

Also I recommend you look into plant tissue culture as another possibility. Tissue culturing is one of the few industries with an axiom in botany that has been growing steadily over the past 5 years. Involves a combination of the taxonomy, physiology, and biochemistry of plants to produce stable phenotypes of various plants on a mass scale.

Hope this helps. By the way how long has it been since you've taken a college class?



I need to do more looking into all of the different areas of work that an ecology deg could be useful in I just found plant taxonomy jobs locally when looking at jobs earlier. I’m sure I’d have just as much interest in something else just need to look more

And I haven’t been in a college class for about 9 years. I got into a good university for free before I even graduated high school it was some program the college ran for kids who just weren’t challenged enough by high school and were having problems because of it.  I was too young and naive to understand or appreciate the opportunity I was given and ‘wanted to see the world’ and ‘live life’ thinking I could always just get money and pay for college later. Thought I knew it all. I had no idea what I wanted to do back then, I was 17 and studying psychology, philosophy, and comparative religion. So even if I stuck with it then I would have had a hard time getting any kind of fulfilling work out of it.



JWM said:
College is a trap. They'll want to hook you in and sell you useless information by the ton. Beware of signing up for ANYTHING that doesn't lead directly to a hard skill in the real world. Otherwise you're wasting your time. "But what about altruism, social justice, a meaningful life, a career "helping others"? It's all political indoctrination to get you on board with their "progressive" agenda. You know how many rewarding and meaningful careers there are out there? Damn few.
Fuck. That. Shit.
None of the idealistic garbage plays out in the real world. How about knowledge for its own sake? Aesthetic, artistic, philosophical inquiries, are best pursued at your leisure, and on your own time. Do this stuff for the love of it. It can fill your soul, but not your wallet.
Perhaps this sounds cynical. It is. But I've seen too many people get sucked in. They go in with the best intentions, work hard, spend a fortune, come out with a paper, and find they have no marketable skill. That's why your barrista has a degree in climatology with a minor in ethnic studies.

JWM



Yeah. While some of that is true and in some cases all of it, doing my own research in my down time  isn’t going to help me pay medical bills, and take care of myself long enough to apply any of the knowledge gained leisurely to anything in any productive way. To ensure a meaningful career for every person out there seeking one, a ton of people would have to just give up and leave the job market completely, its just not realistic and mid 20’s I’m finally realizing that. People compete for a meaningful job/life and I’ve fucked off for most of the competition and I’m going to try my hardest to at least qualify for something that allows me to enjoy life the most I can.   

Part of the reason I left college the first time was because a lot of teachers were pushing ideological shit on top of the subject matter they were teaching and most students were taking it all in like the two belonged together so I don’t deny that this agenda pushing is going on but I’ll deal with it if it comes my way and filter it out in order to help myself live a better life. If I knew there was any other way I’d look into it.

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