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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
The left and the right both the wings of the cancer that's taking America backwards at record speed.

This thread is like the contents of a septic tank. Rotting festering human shit.


They are religions and the only chance at breaking the system is to appeal to their 'religious sensibilities' whatever that may be.

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
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Quote:
The Ecstatic
the "both sides is extremist" shit is dumb.


That sounds dumb. It would be "both sides are extremists".

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: 1234go]
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:smileandnod:

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: cannabinated]
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cannabinated said:
They are religions and the only chance at breaking the system is to appeal to their 'religious sensibilities' whatever that may be.



I am inclined to disagree with that line of thought; I am not religious, nor am I a proponent of party loyalty at any cost.  The Democrats propose policy that I often disagree with, especially policy that favors corporate interests at the detriment of common people, and they are nowhere near progressive enough on many issues: economy, immigration, drugs, just to name a few.  Notwithstanding, I personally believe the Republicans' views on policy are even more archaic.  In regard to the opinions expressed by some in this thread specifically, I find it disturbing that nearly three quarters of all domestic terrorist acts in the U.S. are committed by right-wing groups, yet liberal groups (and Muslims) get the brunt of the blame for threats posed to the country.  Although I have addressed the abovementioned statistic numerous times, it is either ignored or dismissed outright as being factually incorrect.  So, my question is this: When someone does not acknowledge the validity of proven facts, such as the statistic I provided, how can one have a conversation that is grounded in logic, reason and understanding?


I think some people have a way of two-dimensional thinking about them that they are oblivious to.  Some of the right-wing arguments pertaining to policy issues in the U.S. are, facile in nature.  Some on the conservative side can maintain their view of what's best for the economy -- trickle-down economics -- without blaming black people, Muslims, brown immigrants and Jews for all the country's problems.  Why is that so difficult?  That's what we are talking about here: human dignity.




Edit: It has never been my intent to label all Republicans as racists -- that would be a facile argument, just as not all liberals are Marxists. 


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Edited by Asclepius (02/04/18 05:19 PM)

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: cannabinated]
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cannabinated said:
bodhisatta said:
The left and the right both the wings of the cancer that's taking America backwards at record speed.

This thread is like the contents of a septic tank. Rotting festering human shit.


They are religions and the only chance at breaking the system is to appeal to their 'religious sensibilities' whatever that may be.


Lol. I saw the post before i saw who posted it and I was like "holy shit, i heard someone say that the other night "


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius]
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The vibe I'm getting from you is that you're saying muslims get a bad rap for terrorism.  Is that what you're trying to say?


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: lowbrow]
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What I am saying is, nearly 75 percent of all domestic terrorism in the U.S. (since 9/12/2001) was committed by far-right groups.  However, there are many people who support the Muslim ban because of the "threat" they pose to the country, irrespective that none of the countries listed have attacked us.  Furthermore, the U.S. supports Saudi Arabia, with 15 out of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 being Saudis.  It is also Saudi Arabia's Wahhabism that has led to the creation (and funding) of many terrorist groups: Al-Qaeda,  ISIS, the Taliban,  Al-Nusra Front, and many other Sunni-led terror organizations.  Isn't it ironic Trump recently signed a $350 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia, a nation that is responsible for funding terrorism?  Hell, we can just talk about the human rights abuses going on in that country, never mind the other facts I raised.  Why would we support a country like that and then ban countries that have given us no problems?   


Does it make sense now, from my perspective, why I find the U.S. domestic terrorism statistic to be of significance?  It's because we are waging a war on all Muslims, as well as other immigrants, when the real threat comes from far-right groups that pervade the U.S.  I didn't see the entire world attaching a stigma to Christians because of the Bosnian genocide.  Likewise, I become frustrated when ethnocentric policy is deemed "justified" to keep Americans "safe," when its true purpose is to distract people through irrational fear.  We don't need a wall, we don't need a Muslim ban, and we certainly do not need to continue ignoring the true threat facing this country: far-right extremist groups.


So, again, that is what I mean by people ignoring the true complexities of certain issues.  But it seems people are driven by fear, which leads to hate, and ultimately the support of policies with ethnocentric undertones: the Muslim ban, the tacit indifference toward far-right terrorism, and the desire to build a wall to prevent people fleeing from South American countries for their lives, at the expense of the American tax payer.  Because we don't have the money to support immigrants -- you know, the ones stealing all our below minimum-wage jobs.  But we can pay almost $30 billion for a stupid wall.  We also have enough money to give a $1.5 trillion tax break to the wealthiest Americans.  No, no... The problem is those "damn foreigners."


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius]
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Asclepius said:
What I am saying is, nearly 75 percent of all domestic terrorism in the U.S. (since 9/12/2001) was committed by far-right groups.  However, there are many people who support the Muslim ban because of the "threat" they pose to the country, irrespective that none of the countries listed have attacked us.  Furthermore, the U.S. supports Saudi Arabia, with 15 out of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 being Saudis.  It is also Saudi Arabia's Wahhabism that has led to the creation (and funding) of many terrorist groups: Al-Qaeda,  ISIS, the Taliban,  Al-Nusra Front, and many other Sunni-led terror organizations.  Isn't it ironic Trump recently signed a $350 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia, a nation that is responsible for funding terrorism?  Hell, we can just talk about the human rights abuses going on in that country, never mind the other facts I raised.  Why would we support a country like that and then ban countries that have given us no problems?   


Does it make sense now, from my perspective, why I find the U.S. domestic terrorism statistic to be of significance?  It's because we are waging a war on all Muslims, as well as other immigrants, when the real threat comes from far-right groups that pervade the U.S.  I didn't see the entire world attaching a stigma to Christians because of the Bosnian genocide.  Likewise, I become frustrated when ethnocentric policy is deemed "justified" to keep Americans "safe," when its true purpose is to distract people through irrational fear.  We don't need a wall, we don't need a Muslim ban, and we certainly do not need to continue ignoring the true threat facing this country: far-right extremist groups.


So, again, that is what I mean by people ignoring the true complexities of certain issues.  But it seems people are driven by fear, which leads to hate, and ultimately the support of policies with ethnocentric undertones: the Muslim ban, the tacit indifference toward far-right terrorism, and the desire to build a wall to prevent people fleeing from South American countries for their lives, at the expense of the American tax payer.  Because we don't have the money to support immigrants -- you know, the ones stealing all our below minimum-wage jobs.  But we can pay almost $30 billion for a stupid wall.  We also have enough money to give a $1.5 trillion tax break to the wealthiest Americans.  No, no... The problem is those "damn foreigners."


tl;dr: All Muslims are terrorists



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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society (moved) [Re: Shroomism]
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This thread was moved from The Pub.

Reason:
Political topics are best discussed in the Politics Forum that not just has the discussion crowd geared towards that sort of topic, but also the right moderator crew.

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius]
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So we should go to war with Saudi Arabia?


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Shiithead]
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Shiithead said:
Asclepius said:
What I am saying is, nearly 75 percent of all domestic terrorism in the U.S. (since 9/12/2001) was committed by far-right groups.  However, there are many people who support the Muslim ban because of the "threat" they pose to the country, irrespective that none of the countries listed have attacked us.  Furthermore, the U.S. supports Saudi Arabia, with 15 out of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 being Saudis.  It is also Saudi Arabia's Wahhabism that has led to the creation (and funding) of many terrorist groups: Al-Qaeda,  ISIS, the Taliban,  Al-Nusra Front, and many other Sunni-led terror organizations.  Isn't it ironic Trump recently signed a $350 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia, a nation that is responsible for funding terrorism?  Hell, we can just talk about the human rights abuses going on in that country, never mind the other facts I raised.  Why would we support a country like that and then ban countries that have given us no problems?   


Does it make sense now, from my perspective, why I find the U.S. domestic terrorism statistic to be of significance?  It's because we are waging a war on all Muslims, as well as other immigrants, when the real threat comes from far-right groups that pervade the U.S.  I didn't see the entire world attaching a stigma to Christians because of the Bosnian genocide.  Likewise, I become frustrated when ethnocentric policy is deemed "justified" to keep Americans "safe," when its true purpose is to distract people through irrational fear.  We don't need a wall, we don't need a Muslim ban, and we certainly do not need to continue ignoring the true threat facing this country: far-right extremist groups.


So, again, that is what I mean by people ignoring the true complexities of certain issues.  But it seems people are driven by fear, which leads to hate, and ultimately the support of policies with ethnocentric undertones: the Muslim ban, the tacit indifference toward far-right terrorism, and the desire to build a wall to prevent people fleeing from South American countries for their lives, at the expense of the American tax payer.  Because we don't have the money to support immigrants -- you know, the ones stealing all our below minimum-wage jobs.  But we can pay almost $30 billion for a stupid wall.  We also have enough money to give a $1.5 trillion tax break to the wealthiest Americans.  No, no... The problem is those "damn foreigners."


tl;dr: All Muslims are terrorists



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That's mighty cliche of you: "tl;dr."  How did you make it through college?  Most of my classes had a 3 book requirement... Minimum.  No worries.  The willful ignorance of others doesn't foster an apoplectic response from me.  If anything, it gives me a chuckle. 

:Colbert:


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Edited by Asclepius (02/04/18 07:33 PM)

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius]
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Don't worry, Mexico's going to pay for the wall.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius]
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Why so cereal?


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
So we should go to war with Saudi Arabia?



No, we shouldn't.  But we also should not be funding them with $350 billion in arms, just so we can further enrich big oil companies.  We also shouldn't have a Muslim ban.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Shiithead]
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Shiithead said:
Why so cereal?


Because this is a "cereal" topic.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius] * 1
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We don't have a muslim ban.  We need one though.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: 1234go]
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1234go said:
Quote:
The Ecstatic
the "both sides is extremist" shit is dumb.


That sounds dumb. It would be "both sides are extremists".


Quotations always go outside punctuation. Speak American.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
Don't worry, Mexico's going to pay for the wall.


We can't force another country to pay for the wall, much less should we even build one -- it's ridiculous!  And if you think tariffs are the solution, you got another thing coming.  I don't think that'll sit well with American corporations, unless of course the products they have produced in Mexico are exempt from said tariffs.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
1234go said:
Quote:
The Ecstatic
the "both sides is extremist" shit is dumb.


That sounds dumb. It would be "both sides are extremists".


Quotations always go outside punctuation. Speak American.



I am not insulting anyone's intelligence, but quotation marks only go on the outside of punctuation in American English.  Don't mind me; my grammar sucks ass!


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius] * 1
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Thats why I specified American. The Commonwealth does the opposite, I think.


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