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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: nooneman] * 3
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nooneman said:
I bet Russia is totally involved in this SJW bullshit, and also with the far right bullshit. The motherfuckers are playing both sides, trying to increase the bullshit that the average american has to put up with from both sides.



Many of my family members were murdered by Nazis -- one of them at Auschwitz.  When I hear someone stating that ANTIFA is worse than the KKK or neo-Nazis, does it make me a SJW to respond to such a wild charge?  And you then have the audacity to accuse me of spreading Russian disinformation?  How dare you!


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Even the SPLC said they're not nazis, just mean.


I think I'll leave this here though.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24664779#24664779


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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius]
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Asclepius said:
lowbrow said:
koods said:
Well, you are officially a neo Nazi apologist.



Randy Weaver wasn't a nazi.



Randy Weaver attended Aryan Nation churches, rallies, and so on.  Are you claiming he did not?  No?  If you are not refuting that fact, can you provide a logical explanation as to why someone who is not a neo-Nazi would attend such functions?


The FBI talked to him and he said they had differing viewpoints and it wasn't for him.  You can paint Randy Weaver as a bad guy all you want.  In the end he was aquitted of all charges (except for the illegal weapons sale) he did his 18 mo.  , got out and was awarded 3.5 million dollars for his case against the Federal Marshals.

Anything else you want to accuse me of?


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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

Edited by lowbrow (02/02/18 05:01 PM)

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
Asclepius said:
lowbrow said:
koods said:
Well, you are officially a neo Nazi apologist.



Randy Weaver wasn't a nazi.



Randy Weaver attended Aryan Nation churches, rallies, and so on.  Are you claiming he did not?  No?  If you are not refuting that fact, can you provide a logical explanation as to why someone who is not a neo-Nazi would attend such functions?


The FBI talked to him and he said they had differing viewpoints and it wasn't for him.  You can paint Randy Weaver as a bad guy all you want.  In the end he was aquitted of all charges (except for the illegal weapons sale) he did his 18 mo.  , got out and was awarded 3.5 million dollars for his case against the Federal Marshals.

Anything else you want to accuse me of?



There is no evidence that Randy Weaver was not a part of the Aryan Nation when confronted by the FBI.  If you have evidence to the contrary, I will gladly read it; however, it would be comforting to know you have more than Weaver's words alone.  Furthermore, I didn't accuse you of anything.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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I forgot to mention that Weaver's crimes, and association with the Aryan Nation, do not discredit the lawsuit he brought against the federal government.  Just because Weaver belonged to the aforementioned organization, and sold illegal firearms, does not mean he was unjustified in suing for the wrongful death of his family members; both these things can be true simultaneously.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius]
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Asclepius said:
nooneman said:
I bet Russia is totally involved in this SJW bullshit, and also with the far right bullshit. The motherfuckers are playing both sides, trying to increase the bullshit that the average american has to put up with from both sides.



Many of my family members were murdered by Nazis -- one of them at Auschwitz.  When I hear someone stating that ANTIFA is worse than the KKK or neo-Nazis, does it make me a SJW to respond to such a wild charge?  And you then have the audacity to accuse me of spreading Russian disinformation?  How dare you!


Is that what. The 8th time you’ve mentioned your family being killed?    That has nothing to do with antifa.  Just because they call themselves antifacist doesn’t mean they are against the facism that killed your family. It doesn’t mean that at all.  It’s weak minded college kids who want to see less white people in the world. This is why people say they are just as bad as the kkk ideologically. But. I don’t expect you to ever really see that obvious point people are trying to make.

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: NOUS333] * 1
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NOUS333 said:
Asclepius said:
nooneman said:
I bet Russia is totally involved in this SJW bullshit, and also with the far right bullshit. The motherfuckers are playing both sides, trying to increase the bullshit that the average american has to put up with from both sides.



Many of my family members were murdered by Nazis -- one of them at Auschwitz.  When I hear someone stating that ANTIFA is worse than the KKK or neo-Nazis, does it make me a SJW to respond to such a wild charge?  And you then have the audacity to accuse me of spreading Russian disinformation?  How dare you!


Is that what. The 8th time you’ve mentioned your family being killed?    That has nothing to do with antifa.  Just because they call themselves antifacist doesn’t mean they are against the facism that killed your family. It doesn’t mean that at all.  It’s weak minded college kids who want to see less white people in the world. This is why people say they are just as bad as the kkk ideologically. But. I don’t expect you to ever really see that obvious point people are trying to make.



It sounds as though you are projecting.  You're one of the few who always mentions the "atrocities" committed by ANTIFA -- an organization that has killed zero people -- but become annoyed when I mention the death of my family members at the hands of the Nazis.  My suggestion: if you do not like it when people disagree with your assertions, do not invite rebuttals by first raising the issue.


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Edited by Asclepius (02/02/18 05:17 PM)

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: NOUS333] * 1
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Also, many of the ANTIFA are themselves white... I doubt they would give support to a movement that wants to see its own members eradicated.  That said, I do believe many would like to see an abolition of white democracy in the U.S.: a system that has created many problems for the world, much less the United States.  But I think you are conflating the two issues, and it's sort of analogous to people of other countries who love America, but dislike the policies of the current president and his administration.  That is the best example I can provide of the difference between racism against whites and wanting to see an abolition of white democracy.


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: NOUS333] * 3
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NOUS333 said:
That has nothing to do with antifa.  Just because they call themselves antifacist doesn’t mean they are against the facism that killed your family.



:knowwhatnevermind:


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: lowbrow] * 2
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lowbrow said:
I think I'll leave this here though.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24664779#24664779


That's right bub, I know the leader of antifa. I also know the hacker known as 4chan. :cool:


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius]
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Asclepius said:
Also, many of the ANTIFA are themselves white... I doubt they would give support to a movement that wants to see its own members eradicated.  That said, I do believe many would like to see an abolition of white democracy in the U.S.: a system that has created many problems for the world, much less the United States.  But I think you are conflating the two issues, and it's sort of analogous to people of other countries who love America, but dislike the policies of the current president and his administration.  That is the best example I can provide of the difference between racism against whites and wanting to see an abolition of white democracy.


Except it’s more than wanting to abolish white democracy when you go around saying everywhite guy who worked his ass off is privileged.  White guys everywhere who are more to the left are apologizing for being white and people like me who don’t get down like that are seen as being apart of this white democracy you speak of. It’s all bullshit. If you want to end white democracy get your self a fucking job and stop bitching. 

And again I said I didn’t expect you to get my point and you clearly didn’t.  Your family has nothing to do with this.  Most antifa idiots couldn’t even tell you when the holocaust happened. They don’t give a shit about that. They know there’s no fucking remote chance of that happening again let alone in fucking America. And the only reason they might know about current white nationalist stats is because if they didn’t google that shit and memorize it they’d have absolutely no good excuse to be standing in traffic other than they hate trump and they think he’s a racist along with anyone that voted for him or thinks this new weak minded left is a big joke.  Which it is.

I don’t want to think the biggest group to protest in the last 10-15 years is a bunch of retards. It’s just an unfortunate situation where they are.    Show me one fringe group of antifa members that are standing for anything that makes fucking sense.  I haven’t seen that yet.  I would genuinely be surprised to see that.

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius]
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>There is no evidence that Randy Weaver was not a part of the Aryan Nation when confronted by the FBI.

You people always have it backward. Neither he nor anyone else has to prove they are not xyz, its up to others to prove they are. And you have as usual fallen flat on your face as far as presenting evidence. Its the usual 'i heard it from someone who heard it from someone'


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Stonehenge]
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The future of America: :lol:

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: NOUS333]
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Those harmless antifa,  protecting us all from white democracy

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
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Stonehenge said:
>There is no evidence that Randy Weaver was not a part of the Aryan Nation when confronted by the FBI.

You people always have it backward. Neither he nor anyone else has to prove they are not xyz, its up to others to prove they are. And you have as usual fallen flat on your face as far as presenting evidence. Its the usual 'i heard it from someone who heard it from someone'



I admit that I do not personally know the FBI agents who had evidence of Randy Weaver's involvement with the Aryan Nation.  However, I concede you are right -- I heard it from government sources.


Here is a declassified excerpt: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP99-01448R000402060001-6.pdf


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: NOUS333] * 2
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I can provide some context for the video, "Antifa nearly killed this patriot".

It is from an August 20th 2017 rally in Québec City (one week after Unite the Right, tensions are high), organized by La Meute, the largest far-right group in Québec. The two flags being carried are the flag of Québec and the "Patriots Flag" use by the secessionist group Mouvement de libération nationale du Québec (MLNQ).

Some background context of Québec: This province has always had a strong streak of nationalism, and twice held a referendum on proclaiming national sovereignty. The last one, held in 1995, was lost (49.42% yes - 50.58% no) and the failure was largely blamed on the 'ethnic vote'. So began a trend of increasingly xenophobic narratives. Some examples of this trend would be the "reasonable religious accommodations" debate, as well as the failed bill "Quebec Charter of Values".

Things culminated on January 29th of last year, when a young francophone walked into a Québec City mosque and shot 25 people, killing 6 of them. Perversely, this massacre caused the far right to assert itself more than it ever had before, going on an offensive that continues to this day. These groups include a Québec branch of the neo-Nazi inspired Soldiers of Odin, the openly neo-fascist group Fédération des Québécois de souche, the more recently formed Storm Alliance (SA) and the much larger and populist La Meute (meaning Wolf Pack in French).

Now, to return to the rally... If you are interested, you can read the entire report back from the event, but specifically I would like to draw your attention to the following paragraphs:

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After a substantial and frankly annoying period of uncertainty, the bloc turned toward the Plaines d’Abraham, which was an odd choice, in hindsight a result of the militants’ lack of familiarity with the city. After circling back to Grande Allée, comrades spotted a group of protesters in the distance carrying Québec and Mouvement de libération nationale du Québec (MLNQ) flags. (MLNQ is a far right nationalist organization passed its heyday, and its flag is adapted from the historic Québec “Patriots’ flag”.) Comrades started chasing this small group away toward Old Québec. In some videos circulated by alternative media, we can see that one member of this group, a man in his fifties, was attacked by anti-fascists after he swung a pole in their direction. This, in our opinion, was an over-the-top aggression on a man who we have no reason to believe was an actual fascist or Nazi. This man was immediately treated by black bloc medics.


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We need to better define our enemies. La Meute are not Nazis. It is frankly embarrassing that some on our side seem unable to differentiate between some incoherent far right populist group with no clear political program, like La Meute, and a full-on neo-Nazi outfit like Atalante or neo-fascist pressure groups like la Fédération des Québécois de souche or Horizon Québec Actuel. Of course they are all our enemies ideologically, but we must know them better for what they truly are if we are to defeat them.

Proceeding from this, we need to do better at choosing the targets of physical aggression. Few people would cry about a neo-Nazi bonehead getting his face rearranged. Not so much so with your uncle Jerry from Amqui, who’s a bit on the racist side but wouldn’t hurt a fly. It’s important to make racists afraid again (and I think we can check that box after last Sunday…), but let’s not overburden our already strained public health system.


Internal criticism happens within the antifascist movement. No human or human based organization is perfect - tactical mistakes, over aggressions, and misplaced violence are called out when the occur. Of course, you won't be privy to these conversations if you aren't involved, but they do happen. Overly aggressive individuals are a liability, and get shut out. I can't say this happens everywhere, but it is definitely the reality in my world. My antifascist action doesn't rule out violence, but violence is the last tool I wish to use.

No pasarán.


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Edited by shivas.wisdom (02/03/18 12:51 PM)

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: Asclepius] * 2
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For the sake of balance, I'll share the profile of one of the psycho motherfuckers that anyone whose Jewish (primarily - but I wouldn't be anything but a white man talking to this guy) has to worry about being randomly assaulted by just for their ethnicity if they live anywhere within the vicinity of Ashland, Oregon.

This guy has been witnessed spitting on little Jewish children leaving the synagogue and calling them whores. He also was running for political office in Ashland. The community bans him from many events, but he's still allowed to roam the world.

I encountered him once at one of the bars (one of the chillest bars in the world at that) with my best friend, who is a very attractive female :lol: - never in my life have I felt the instinct to be ready to grab any sharp object near me and defend my life. It was like if I had encountered an SS officer living in Germany in 1944 - it took much of my restraint and composure to keep my violent instincts away from the front of my mind :lol: So I played fake polite as he attempted to flirt with my friend, but did my best to be brief with him and make him fuck off.

Related thus, is this man David Dees (http://ddees.com/) - who I had actually lived with for awhile, he was a chill seeming guy - very eccentric, made crazy ass political art - he's actually somewhat famous for it. But when he learned that I was Jewish my relation with him very much changed, he became cold and plotting. He met with another friend, another fairly vocal and famous anti-semitic Jeff Rense (http://www.rense.com/), who convinced him that I was apparently a Mossad agent :rofl:

So I was evicted from my place of living - because some motherfucker, who had been my friend - caught in the grips of extreme paranoia thought I was a fucking Mossad agent, because I am Jewish. :lol:

- - sorry if linking to profiles is against normal behavior here but these people are public figures so I think it is okay, I just wanted to demonstrate some of the crazy as fuck weird ass shit I have experienced solely because of my ethnicity :lol: and I am not thin skinned about any of it. But I will confront anyone who thinks its remotely okay to fuck with anyone because they happen to share a certain genetic signature.

Biome:

Rense:

Dees:


Horrifying right :smilingpuppy: (Biome is the only one who I ever felt physically threatened by - that man is completely insane with hate for Jews)


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Edited by twighead (02/02/18 09:39 PM)

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: twighead] * 1
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Oh yeah i forgot shroomism is a nazi now :lol:


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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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Shroomism is not a Nazi - I really respect him and I don't think that for a moment... Regardless of any disagreements we have over this, I'm just showing that both sides have gone way too far and demonstrating some of the shit that every day innocent people have to put up with for fucking nothing.

Seriously how did you get that from my post :lol:


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Edited by twighead (02/02/18 09:24 PM)

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Re: SJWs are useful idiots who only serve to destabilize society [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Jesus Christ!  :joneswtf:


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