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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: akira_akuma]
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I turn on NPR for half information, half comic relief....by God they didn't miss a beat today. Could hear the salavating through my shitty car speakers "Trump meets Putin! Trump meets Putin!" I think Tom Ashbrook and David Bianculli busted a nut on air.


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: SirTripAlot]
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i don't know how people can take that shit so seriously. petty politics. though Trump is pretty funny, i'll hand him that.

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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Citizen X said:
What’s out of hand iyo? Why do you call it a witch hunt? The president accepts that Russia meddled in our elections and his administration was in contact with Russia to get HRC hacked emails.

Which part do you dispute?


The part where Trump was colluding with Russia.


Who said that? The question is whether his campaign accepted Russian assistance to help win the election and whether there was any quid pro quo.The evidence that they were willing to entertain these ideas is incontrovertible. The question at hand is whether they did so.


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: SirTripAlot]
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SirTripAlot said:
I turn on NPR for half information, half comic relief....by God they didn't miss a beat today. Could hear the salavating through my shitty car speakers "Trump meets Putin! Trump meets Putin!" I think Tom Ashbrook and David Bianculli busted a nut on air.


You're being disingenuous. The story isn't about him meeting Putin. The story is what trump said about Putin afterwards. BTW, anytime the president of the US meets the president of Russia, it is newsworthy.


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: koods]
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akira_akuma said:
the entire notion was invented by idiot leftists in the first place, who were duped by propaganda, and then they STILL hate the alt-right and whomever is standing up to the government swamp.

unbelievable! really! those who go up against the swamp are tarred and feathered as nazis, and those who are duped by this Russia bullshit are heralded as "truth seekers" -- then you get your odd men out, like Fal, who is avowed socialist (or neoliberal, in otherwords- they play for the same team in the US, the swamp, big government), plays up all the causes in said propaganda as "truth", but just drops the notion at "Russia" because, who knows...whim.


What is the “notion” in your first paragraph?

Like Corker and Flake? Mitch? Donna Brazil? Speaking in general doesn’t help me understand what point you’re trying to make.



koods said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Citizen X said:
What’s out of hand iyo? Why do you call it a witch hunt? The president accepts that Russia meddled in our elections and his administration was in contact with Russia to get HRC hacked emails.

Which part do you dispute?


The part where Trump was colluding with Russia.


Who said that? The question is whether his campaign accepted Russian assistance to help win the election and whether there was any quid pro quo.The evidence that they were willing to entertain these ideas is incontrovertible. The question at hand is whether they did so.


It’s hard to post here anymore because honest debate doesn’t exist here imo


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: koods] * 1
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We now know that Wikileaks was actively trying to help trump. Assange is a political hack.

The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks - The Atlantic
https://apple.news/AwBFpVMsSTberFafJ_dn-_Q

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“Hey Don. We have an unusual idea,” WikiLeaks wrote on October 21, 2016. “Leak us one or more of your father’s tax returns.” WikiLeaks then laid out three reasons why this would benefit both the Trumps and WikiLeaks. One, The New York Times had already published a fragment of Trump’s tax returns on October 1; two, the rest could come out any time “through the most biased source (e.g. NYT/MSNBC).”
It is the third reason, though, WikiLeaks wrote, that “is the real kicker.” “If we publish them it will dramatically improve the perception of our impartiality,” WikiLeaks explained. “That means that the vast amount of stuff that we are publishing on Clinton will have much higher impact, because it won’t be perceived as coming from a ‘pro-Trump’ ‘pro-Russia’ source.” It then provided an email address and link where the Trump campaign could send the tax returns, and adds, “The same for any other negative stuff (documents, recordings) that you think has a decent chance of coming out. Let us put it out.”



This shit is appalling. The leaks were never about transparency. They were about destroying Hillary Clinton.


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: koods]
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What is the “notion” in your first paragraph?


Russian collusion and Trump, period.

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This shit is appalling. The leaks were never about transparency. They were about destroying Hillary Clinton.


do i need to make more "fight fire with fire" posts? what don't you get? Hillary was corrupt. Bernie, shafted. Trump didn't want to be at her behest. so he fought fire with fire.

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It’s hard to post here anymore because honest debate doesn’t exist here imo



yep. it's a shitshow.

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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: koods]
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koods said:
SirTripAlot said:
I turn on NPR for half information, half comic relief....by God they didn't miss a beat today. Could hear the salavating through my shitty car speakers "Trump meets Putin! Trump meets Putin!" I think Tom Ashbrook and David Bianculli busted a nut on air.


You're being disingenuous. The story isn't about him meeting Putin. The story is what trump said about Putin afterwards. BTW, anytime the president of the US meets the president of Russia, it is newsworthy.


Of course it's newsworthy....it doesn't mean I can't hear thier longing for this meeting to take place. Kinda like watching the media play by play when Trump got elected( I DVRed both ABC and NBC on election night....it better than Girls Gone Wild) You can't hear thier bias? Come on man!

Edited by SirTripAlot (11/13/17 07:44 PM)

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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: koods]
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Hillary or whoever was running against the president.
Imo it was a more pro Trump than anti Hillary but it was a twofer. Good job Russia a great clandestine operation but too many people found out.


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: Citizen X] * 2
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Idk I think it was definitely an effort to hurt Hillary. Assange hated her. He blamed her for his situation, having to hide in the embassy for years.


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: koods]
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. Good job Russia a great clandestine operation but too many people found out.


it isn't Russia who initiated this. lol, that's the funny part.

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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: koods]
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akira_akuma said:
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. Good job Russia a great clandestine operation but too many people found out.


it isn't Russia who initiated this. lol, that's the funny part.


Whomever started it, especially an evil democrat!! Sad
Well done Russia for exploiting it.


koods said:
Idk I think it was definitely an effort to hurt Hillary. Assange hated her. He blamed her for his situation, having to hide in the embassy for years.


I never thought of assange’s motives, until the email you posted I wasn’t sure if there was a connection. I see it’s getting covered now. Thanks for pointing that out


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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Well hillary was caught on tape debating whether she could drone strike Julian. So he had every reason.


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: Deathcap99] * 2
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Doesn't matter. Wikileaks stopped being about transparency and freedom of information and became a political enterprise. Assange lost his soul to vengeance.


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: koods]
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"doesn't matter!"

easy for you to say.

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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: koods]
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koods said:
The question is whether his campaign accepted Russian assistance to help win the election and whether there was any quid pro quo.


We only know that his campaign wanted dirt on Hillary, but that they never got it.

koods said:
We now know that Wikileaks was actively trying to help trump. Assange is a political hack.

The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks - The Atlantic
https://apple.news/AwBFpVMsSTberFafJ_dn-_Q

This shit is appalling. The leaks were never about transparency. They were about destroying Hillary Clinton.


No, Wikileaks was trying to help itself; the more transparency, the better for them.


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: Citizen X]
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Citizen X said:
akira_akuma said:
Citizen X said:
Good job Russia a great clandestine operation but too many people found out.


it isn't Russia who initiated this. lol, that's the funny part.


Whomever started it, especially an evil democrat!! Sad
Well done Russia for exploiting it.


Did someone finally determine Russia did it?  Source?


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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wow, such quip, such snip.

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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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We only know that his campaign wanted dirt on Hillary, but that they never got it.



WTF are you talking about? They got the dirt. It was released by Wikileaks. Are you not paying attention. We also know that the campaign knew MONTHS ahead of time that the Russians had stolen emails. It was discussed in a meeting with trump and session. Don't you remember someone has been indicted for lying about it?

The only question is whether the trump campaign offered anything in return for this assistance.


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Re: Trump Gets Friendly with Putin [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
We only know that his campaign wanted dirt on Hillary, but that they never got it.


WTF are you talking about? They got the dirt. It was released by Wikileaks. Are you not paying attention.


Yes, we know Wikileaks released it, but we don't know where they got it.

koods said:
We also know that the campaign knew MONTHS ahead of time that the Russians had stolen emails. It was discussed in a meeting with trump and session. Don't you remember someone has been indicted for lying about it?


Yes, we know US intelligence said someone in Russia got a hold of the emails as well as Wikileaks, but we don't know where they got it.

koods said:
The only question is whether the trump campaign offered anything in return for this assistance.


Apparently, Wikileaks never got Trump's tax returns in return for their leaking the DNC emails.


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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (11/13/17 10:56 PM)

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