Enlil said:

Capers said:

Enlil said:

ted, it's someone else's fault.

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When less qualified people are being chosen instead, yes, it is partially someone else's fault.

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More likely, you're suffering from the dunning-kruger effect.

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Capers said:

No one ran over any protesters. A guy was getting attacked in his car, freaked out, and drove toward a violent mob. The obese woman who died was never struck by the car. She died of a heart attack.

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Among those terminated was William W. Bryson, son of the department’s former fire chief, because he allegedly did not report the incident to higher-ups and failed to prevent the hate incident from happening. His father, who served in the department for decades, fired 62 black firemen in the early 1990s ostensibly for their support of affirmative action efforts.

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In mid-October, authorities arrested five individuals, including two law-enforcement officers, in the 30-year-old cold case after the Spalding County, Ga., Sheriff’s Office reopened the case in March after receiving new information.

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NY School District Apologizes After Automated Phone Call Uses Racial Slur Instead of Student’s Name








Nazis and KKK have infiltrating the ranks of law enforcement for a long time.

Black man beaten by white nationalists at Charlottesville faces criminal charge
I'm pretty sure this was outside of a police station

qman and other racists, are you just going to continue to argue this is just genetic difference?

Whiteness is a construct

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Allen’s study presents a full-scale challenge to what he refers to as “The Great White Assumption” — the unquestioning acceptance of the “white race” and “white” identity as skin color-based and natural attributes rather than as social and political constructions.

His thesis on the origin, nature and maintenance of the “white race” and his contenion that slavery in the Anglo-American plantation colonies was capitalist and that enslaved Black laborers were proletarians, provide the basis of a revolutionary approach to United States labor history.

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the “white race” was invented as a ruling-class social control formation in response to labor solidarity as manifested in the later (civil war) stages of Bacon’s Rebellion (1676-77).

To this he adds two important corollaries: 1) the ruling elite deliberately instituted a system of racial privileges to define and maintain the “white race” and to implement a system of racial oppression, and 2) the consequence was not only ruinous to the interest of African Americans, but was also disastrous for European-American workers.

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“We are undergoing a sad process of degeneration… We will need to reverse it using the state and the government. You incentivize people with higher intelligence, you incentivize people who are healthy to have children. And it sounds terrible and nasty, but there would be a great use of contraception.”

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Today, in the public imagination, ‘ethnic cleansing’ has been associated with civil war and mass murder (understandably so),” Spencer said. “But this need not be the case. 1919 is a real example of successful ethnic redistribution—done by fiat, we should remember, but done peacefully.”

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qman and others:
"what nazis?"
"what violence?"
even seig heiling richard spencer pretends there were no nazis.

Imagine if I was denying that there were jihadist groups in the US and Europe? You would lose your minds with incredulity.

This is worth a watch if you haven't already seen it..
vice documentary on charlottesville

qman said:

"thousands of people with the same biases"
Or with the same conclusions that have come from real life experiences prejudices

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"genetic difference that will naturally give the result of racial inequality"
That's true, it's the same reason why there's massive under representation of whites in the NBA and NFL.  Sometimes the genetics are favorable for a certain task, sometimes it's unfavorable. It has nothing to be with being superior or inferior, nature creates diversity for survival.

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"Attitudes that blackness is inherently linked with crime and violence"
The crime statistics clearly show this is the case, why would someone deny that reality.

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"if you think people of colour are inherently inferior then you wouldn't want to mix with them"

That's not true at all, most of the blacks I meet are cool and funny as hell, maybe that's because I treat them as people, not victims.

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50mmprime said:

Not worth arguing with fucking morons dude. If someone is starting from the point of not believing that racism exists or is a problem in the US, there's no amount of logical argument that will convince them.

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50mmprime said:

Not worth arguing with fucking morons dude. If someone is starting from the point of not believing that racism exists or is a problem in the US, there's no amount of logical argument that will convince them.

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Tipote said:

qman said:

"thousands of people with the same biases"
Or with the same conclusions that have come from real life experiences prejudices

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corrected it for you

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"genetic difference that will naturally give the result of racial inequality"
That's true, it's the same reason why there's massive under representation of whites in the NBA and NFL.  Sometimes the genetics are favorable for a certain task, sometimes it's unfavorable. It has nothing to be with being superior or inferior, nature creates diversity for survival.

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Do you think that associations between athletic ability and blackness didn't come from slavery?
Can't you imagine that black people might focus on athletic performance because for many black people its a main route into higher education through scholarships?
Multiple factors - all of which you ignore (despite loving to refer about environmental conditions) - can affect black student's academic performance.

If you want to make the case about genetic differences then why aren't you ever able to back it up with evidence?

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"Attitudes that blackness is inherently linked with crime and violence"
The crime statistics clearly show this is the case, why would someone deny that reality.

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Yes I often wonder why someone would deny reality. Again, you show me proof that genetic differences are linked with black criminality. Crime statistics are not proof as is impossible to get into your bigotted mind.

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"if you think people of colour are inherently inferior then you wouldn't want to mix with them"

That's not true at all, most of the blacks I meet are cool and funny as hell, maybe that's because I treat them as people, not victims.

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When I said "mix", I actually meant genetically.. which is why I quoted Spencer afterwards talking about eugenics and ethnic cleansing.
Are the cool and funny as hell black people you meet genetically primed for aggression, crime, violence etc etc?

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"Do you think associations between athletic ability and blackness didn't come from slavery?"

The two have nothing to do with each other, Africans have the same level of athleticism and were never slaves. 

"Can't you imagine that black people might focus on athletic performance?"

Still denying the obvious I see, wake up dude. Blacks don't focus on athletics any more than whites in the US, in fact whites have more resources to outperform them and they still come up short, nature wins at the end of the day.

"show me proof that genetic differences are linked with black criminality...crime statistics are not proof"

Show me proof that genetic differences are linked with male criminality, crime statistic are not proof. 

"genetic differences...back it up with evidence?"

Are you seriously denying that there's genetic differences between blacks, whites and Asian population groups?

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Sometimes the genetics are favorable for a certain task, sometimes it's unfavorable. It has nothing to be with being superior or inferior, nature creates diversity for survival.

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Thus the answer to the question “How often is a pair of individuals from one population genetically more dissimilar than two individuals chosen from two different populations?” depends on the number of polymorphisms used to define that dissimilarity and the populations being compared. The answer, equation M44 can be read from Figure 2. Given 10 loci, three distinct populations, and the full spectrum of polymorphisms (Figure 2E), the answer is equation M45 ≅ 0.3, or nearly one-third of the time. With 100 loci, the answer is ∼20% of the time and even using 1000 loci, equation M46 ≅ 10%. However, if genetic similarity is measured over many thousands of loci, the answer becomes “never” when individuals are sampled from geographically separated populations.

On the other hand, if the entire world population were analyzed, the inclusion of many closely related and admixed populations would increase equation M47 This is illustrated by the fact that equation M48 and the classification error rates, CC and CT, all remain greater than zero when such populations are analyzed, despite the use of >10,000 polymorphisms (Table 1, microarray data set; Figure 2D).

Many factors will further weaken the correlation between an individual's phenotype and their geographic ancestry. These include considering more closely related or admixed populations, studying phenotypes influenced by fewer loci, unevenly distributed effects across loci, nonadditive effects, developmental and environmental effects, and uncertainties about individuals' ancestry and actual populations of origin. The typical frequencies of alleles that influence a phenotype are also relevant, as our results show that rare polymorphisms yield high values of equation M55 CC, and CT, even when many such polymorphisms are studied. This implies that complex phenotypes influenced primarily by rare alleles may correspond poorly with population labels and other population-typical traits (in contrast to some Mendelian diseases). However, the typical frequencies of alleles responsible for common complex diseases remain unknown. A final complication arises when racial classifications are used as proxies for geographic ancestry. Although many concepts of race are correlated with geographic ancestry, the two are not interchangeable, and relying on racial classifications will reduce predictive power still further.

The fact that, given enough genetic data, individuals can be correctly assigned to their populations of origin is compatible with the observation that most human genetic variation is found within populations, not between them. It is also compatible with our finding that, even when the most distinct populations are considered and hundreds of loci are used, individuals are frequently more similar to members of other populations than to members of their own population. Thus, caution should be used when using geographic or genetic ancestry to make inferences about individual phenotypes.

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howsyournaggerdoin said:

Is it a problem if i ram a knife down your throat because i felt like it ?

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Excellent point, please tell us more.

ballsalsa said:

qman said:

Sometimes the genetics are favorable for a certain task, sometimes it's unfavorable. It has nothing to be with being superior or inferior, nature creates diversity for survival.

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Humans just aren't all that diverse compared to other animals. 

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Yet, there's still genetic diversity regardless of your attempts to minimize it.

Humans and fish share 85% of their DNA, we're basically the same, correct?