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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
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anti white propaganda lmao


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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it'll keep going on, and people are going to eventually get hurt, and/or people will eventually have to keep telling people like you to wake up and start thinking like a human being, stop being a robot, and putting your blinders on to things happening in the world and the reality of your situation.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
yeah we shouldnt discriminate against people who discriminate. youre right.


So you don't mind being discriminated against?  Or you're too enlightened to prejudge any person or environment?

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 3
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
yeah we shouldnt discriminate against people who discriminate. youre right.


So you don't mind being discriminated against?  Or you're too enlightened to prejudge any person or environment?


as a cis white male, discrimination against me is negligible. im not conceited enough to bitch and moan that a deck clearly stacked in my favor isnt stacked enough.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
yeah we shouldnt discriminate against people who discriminate. youre right.


So you don't mind being discriminated against?  Or you're too enlightened to prejudge any person or environment?


as a cis white male, discrimination against me is negligible. im not conceited enough to bitch and moan that a deck clearly stacked in my favor isnt stacked enough.


You're not getting it, you suggested people that discriminate should be discriminated against, correct?  So that would include you as well, correct?  Or you don't prejudge any person or environment? 

"discrimination against me is negligible" 

Wait until it gets out that you also prejudge others, the fallout won't be pretty. :lol:

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 2
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wait you thought i was being serious when i said that? :lol:


either way, its like enlil said: rational prejudice is fine, irrational not so much.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: The Ecstatic]
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yeah, try being serious, because being understood, remember, is of the utmost importance. no fun allowed!

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
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says the guy whose prose are universally misunderstood


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: The Ecstatic]
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deja vu.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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The Ecstatic said:
akira_akuma said:
being understood, remember, is of the utmost importance.


says the guy whose prose are universally misunderstood


:lol:  Beat me to it.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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let's attack the argument, guys.

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma] * 4
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It wasn't an attack on you.  It was letting you know that you're hard to understand.

The sad thing is, instead of taking people's advice not to obfuscate the discussion, you get mad and attack the people for not understanding.  :shrug:


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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It wasn't an attack on you.  It was letting you know that you're hard to understand.


it's called poisoning the well. you're always going to resort to such tactics, you can't help yourself. but the thing is, if you insist, the only way to fight against such tactics is using fire against fire, so to speak. :shrug: you leave me no choice.

but please, stop insisting that you can't understanding me, English, this isn't your second language. you can also make an assertion without completely understanding me, you know.

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The sad thing is, instead of taking people's advice not to obfuscate the discussion, you get mad and attack the people for not understanding.



i don't get mad at that, in fact, i rather enjoy it (shows how much you know), i get mad at people prevaricating though.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: akira_akuma]
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funny, literally, now, (i already established this dialectic about 'Nazism is not white supremacist, and white supremacist is not white nationalist' in my blog, and around here, and i'm glad it's catching on) there is this lovely pic describing what i've been telling you people



literally.

PS: this liberal forum will insist that only some of the picture is accurate, and lie, like they always do.

Edited by akira_akuma (11/01/17 01:01 AM)

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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The Ecstatic said:
i dont think it merits a discussion.


nazis are cunts. those who disagree are probably cunts, cunt adjacent at least.


Cunt adjacent lol.

I'm trying to conjur some echos in my chamber.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
...Instead...why can't we dismantle these structures that unfairly advantage white people if we really want to live in a free society for everyone?


Because too many people would rather insulate such structures
and provide them legitimacy
by creating additional structures set to unfairly advantage non-white people

to take this to a level different from race
white English speakers in North America hold more privilege than white French speakers in North America
as a result, Québec has implemented a variety of language laws
regarding things like the prioritization of hiring French speakers over English speakers
and necessitating that French fonts be larger than English and other language text on all signage
even in primarily English or Chinese communities

This has not promoted French acceptance in the rest of Canada,
on the contrary, when you move West to provinces like Manitoba French-speaking communities see discrimination
on the basis of a shared language with Québec
(though many French speakers find Québécois to not be mutually intelligible with their own French)

Québec's staunch position on 'preserving French culture'
has served more to isolate the region from the rest of the country
such that they are treated as being at-odds against other provinces
in economic matters like inter-provincial trade and energy agreements

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
you know the saying.. 'its a man's world'?  Its a wealthy white hetero man's world

men have privilege over women.

black men have privilege over black women.

a white woman has privilege over a black woman.

white heterosexual men have a privilege over white homosexual men

a rich man has a privilege over a poor man.

where race, gender, sexual orientation, sex, class meet is intersectionality.


You forgot that the able have privilege over the disabled

Tipote said:
... They wore a uniform like these tards. ...


You ableist
:cookiemonster:

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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
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SirTripAlot said:
One thing I find absolutely astonishing....is that some view racism and the like as an exclusive American issue.

For instance, in the Philippines people go to great lengths to whiten thier skin; darker people are viewed as poor as it is assumed they work outside all day. White privilege exists everywhere.


Good point about skin whitening.

The White supremacist order is global. People all over the world want to whiten their skin. I even know toddlers who don't see themselves represented on TV, they only see white faces so they even want to be white as thats what they see as the standard of beauty as set by power structures in society. Asking for more representation of people of colour is not political correctness gone mad, its just being more representative of the people in society. Its mad that toddlers can see the signals set by society but qman can't!

There is something called colourism too. Lighter skinned black women and men have advantages over darker skin tones.


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
So if this aspect of human nature is universal regardless of the culture, race, sex, age and geographical location, why the outrage?


Dismantling these structures is just. You aren't outraged because you are insulated by white privilege.

History exploitation have created structural inequalities which have ramifications to the present day. It is unjust that just because a white family who kept slaves was not only compensated for their loss but the actual newly freed slaves were not given any compensation. I bet qman would dismiss outright the idea of reparations.. but there were reparations for slave owners..    Look at how dominantly slavery contributed to the economy of the US and tell me that the US 'the land of the free' was not built by slaves.

If whites had been stolen from their countries and enslaved for hundreds of years and then were set "free" then they were free in a society that is tailored to benefit people who don't look like them. How on earth would that not have ramifications to the present day? On their descendants? On the countries they were taken from?

Richard Spencer's family used to own cotton farms in the South, and therefore slaves. Maybe if his ancestors were slaves then he wouldn't be in the position he is today? If his race had faced the dehumanisation of slavery then maybe people would look at his shit circumstances in the present day and assume that whites are slow or lazy or commit crime or any of the inequalities that reinforce your existing prejudices.

Slavery was possible by the dehumanisation of people of colour. Does anyone think that the abolition of slavery suddenly granted black people all the humanity and opportunity that whites had enjoyed?


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Re: Nazis are cunts [Re: qman] * 3
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qman said:
"genocide as a political position"

I don't know if any group in the US has that political position.


Dont know? Or willfully ignorant?

Richard Spencer wants an ethnostate and has called for "peaceful ethnic cleansing". If you look at interviews with the Nazi and KKK organisations then they are very open that violence is likely. Are you so determined not to see whats in front of you?
qman said:
If they had that position against Polish Americans, let their ideas enter the court of public opinion and fail in public for all to see, there's nothing to be afraid of in this case.


Nothing to be afraid of? What because you don't consider polish Americans as inferior so can't imagine it possible? Well what a privileged seat youre speaking from.
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And if the public changes its mind and decides that Polish people need to be killed, I hardly think trying to limit speech is going to make any difference, do you?



Speech that promotes genocide surely makes a difference if you protect it. No one suggests that free speech is abolished, just that genocide is not a legitimate political position.
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You see, you're trying to prevent the unpreventable, humans are going to do what they think they need to do to survive or create justice regardless of your rules on speech.


And for whites, at the top of the chain, to talk about 'just trying to survive' is laughable and ignorant. Whites in this country hold the reigns of power yet you are butthurt about people of colour having a better chance to say.. get into college. Insecure about losing white privilege much?


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