Tipote said:

meltdowner said:

Everyone in this thread insulting Nazi's here needs to let off some steam.

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meltdowner said:

I don't even know why this is a conversation today, the kkk and neo nazis aren't a threat to anyone.  You make them a made up threat because you need to hate something, it seems.

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Is this a trolling post? How on earth are the KKK and neonazis not a threat to anyone?

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qman said:

Isn't the average white person who promotes systemic racism/bigotry the bigger problem?

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Tipote said:

qman said:

Isn't the average white person who promotes systemic racism/bigotry the bigger problem?

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only in the sense that they empower Nazis who push the center to the right.

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qman said:

How do white liberals who unknowingly promote systemic racism "empower Nazis who push the center to the right"?

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If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.

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The Ecstatic said:

Some of us are capable of critical thought.

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Tipote said:

qman said:

How do white liberals who unknowingly promote systemic racism "empower Nazis who push the center to the right"?

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By framing things as moral equivalents and promoting a narrative about 'just defending free speech' which normalises Nazi narratives in public discourse.

White people who unknowingly perpetuate systemic racism are insulated by white privilege - the blindness that comes from not being on the receiving end of actions that are targeting people of colour. Since they don't have skin in the game, it just appears to be intellectual debate rather than an issue of life or death.

The very fact that victim's experiences are sidelined and dismissed means more actions can be made to do more of the same. This pushes the center further to the right.

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If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.

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The Ecstatic said:

Do you think the national socialists in early 30's Germany ran for parliament on the Holocaust?

If you're a nazi, you have to stay on the edge of the Overton window. That way, the centrists will defend you and give you cover until you get enough power to expel them too.

have you never heard the "first they came for the socialists" quote? it exists for a reason.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

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The Ecstatic said:

its not a conspiracy because the center is covering them unwittingly.

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qman said:

"actions that are targeting people of colour"

What actions specifically, by who? 

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qman said:

"victim's experiences are sidelined and dismissed"

What victims?

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The Ecstatic said:

im gonna make frog memes about complain about ad hominems on the internet

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That's too bad, you're pissing on the chance to stop the coming genocide.

Tipote said:

is it just that I am only just learning how to read akira's posts for the first time, or has he gotten way more nazi-apologist over the past year?

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meltdowner said:

This thread is so ridiculous at this point.  You're either a nazi or you're not at this point.  No middle ground.

Go outside lefties and interact with people in person.  There is an infinite grey area here.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

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Tipote said:

qman said:

"actions that are targeting people of colour"

What actions specifically, by who? 

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Daily systemic racism and sexism which perpetuates existing systems of oppression.

The scrapping of DACA and the deportation of people who have contributed to this country all their lives.

Abuses against those at standing rock

Muslim ban and the demonisation of muslims, blanket surveillance of muslims.

demonisation of and incitement towards peaceful NFL protestors, racial justice activists and ANTI-fascists.

butthurt white people crying about how affirmative action discriminates against them.

qman said:

"victim's experiences are sidelined and dismissed"

What victims?

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disproportionately people of colour and the working classes

I know you need your hand held like HU but, really?!


If we treated the nazi militants like we did da'esh then we would have media screaming about how they infiltrate our systems of government, how they are accessing explosives and planning attacks against citizens. It looks like Nazi/KKK militancy is the threat Trump can't name but he berated Obama for not saying radical islamic terrorism.

They shoot at protestors and have repeatedly been found to be playing with explosives yet there is silence by leadership, institutions and the media.

look at where power lies.

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"Daily systemic racism and sexism which perpetuates existing system of oppression"

Did you learn this at university?  You forgot ageism, social-economic oppression and homophobia.

"the deportation of people"

Yeah, sovereign nation enforcing their immigration laws, the horror.

"demonisation of muslims"

So people can't critize the fact that Islam doesn't embrace Western liberal values, that's a shame.

"demonization of...peaceful NFL players...ANTI-racists"

The NFL players are too stupid to even know what they're doing and Antifa are a bunch of violent nutcases, what's wrong with acknowledging that fact?

"butthurt white people crying about how affirmative action discriminates against them"

So racism laws are OK if they're biased against "butthurt white people"?  Sounds like you're promoting the divide.

"I know you need your hand held"

Well, you continue to make massive generalizations with no attachment to reality and I continue to call you out on it.

"look at where the power lies"

You mean the people that put our politicians into power, what about them?