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UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail
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It appears that the UK is going full 1984 on its populace. Discuss intelligently.


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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Fake news, would you like a :taco: to get had with your bullshit? :cheers::elmo:

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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Funny..because I remember hearing about people in the UK who've spoken out against Islamic terrorism and the ramifications of mass immigration being described as far right extremists. :facepalm:


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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail [Re: FreeTheSoul] * 2
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FreeTheSoul said:
Fake news, would you like a :taco: to get had with your bullshit? :cheers::elmo:


Are you retarded, or are you retarded?


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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said:
FreeTheSoul said:
Fake news, would you like a :taco: to get had with your bullshit? :cheers::elmo:


Are you retarded, or are you retarded?


That must be a personal reflection of the question you ask yourself everyday. Figure out the answer yourself. No :taco:'s for you! :elmo:

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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
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Cops have the weirdest bodys look at his head, arm torso ratio.


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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/terrorist-propaganda-criminal-offence-new-law-amber-rudd-streaming-watching-extremist-material-isis-a7979986.html

They want to ban acid sales to minors because of how many acid attacks are happening over there.
http://archive.is/4ehME


I was considering moving to the UK and working for my uncle who owns a candy factory. The only reason i don't want to go is because of how dystopian it is over there. I wouldn't be able to talk about some the things i do, I love talking about the truth and you can be jailed for it. Its a trade off... less freedoms for more money? Not sure i wanna do that. My uncle is a rich man and i could probably even inherit the business eventually since he bought it completely from its previous owners, and is in need of help, and has no other family over there to help him. He's a good guy too and we always got along . I'm split.

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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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This thread was moved from The Pub.

Reason:
The article actually doesn't even say that people who "view Far-right propaganda" will be slapped with 15 years in jail. Look at the first sentence...it only says that "terrorists who publish information about members of the" police force will be given 15 years.

Fake news, going to the Conspiracy forum.

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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: trendal] * 1
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trendal said:
<img src='https://www.shroomery.org/forums/images/moved.gif'> This thread was moved from The Pub.

Reason:
The article actually doesn't even say that people who "view Far-right propaganda" will be slapped with 15 years in jail. Look at the first sentence...it only says that "terrorists who publish information about members of the" police force will be given 15 years.

Fake news, going to the Conspiracy forum.


Is this fake news?

"Watching streamed extremist material online will be a criminal offence under plans to crackdown on terrorist propaganda.

Home Secretary Amber Rudd will say those found guilty of repeatedly viewing terrorist material could face up to 15 years in jail.

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Ms Rudd said: “I want to make sure those who view despicable terrorist content online including jihadi websites, far-right propaganda and bomb-making instructions face the full force of the law."

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The Home Secretary yesterday criticised firms for developing encrypted software that has held back the authorities from investigating suspicious activity."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/terrorist-propaganda-criminal-offence-new-law-amber-rudd-streaming-watching-extremist-material-isis-a7979986.html

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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: Hobozen] * 1
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A mod couldn't bother to read for 30 seconds before moving the thread :lol:


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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: Eminence]
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Read the second paragraph :rolleyes:


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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: trendal]
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It's in the title, and also “I want to make sure those who view despicable terrorist content online, including jihadi websites, far-right propaganda and bomb-making instructions, face the full force of the law,” said Rudd.

People have already been accused of spouting far-right propaganda for opposing the mass immigration that enabled the terrorist attacks in the first place. So if that's incorrect, someone needs to work on their wording.


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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: Eminence]
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"Users who view the forbidden content only once by mistake, or out of curiosity, will not be charged, and it is reported that there will be protections for journalists, academics, and "others who may have a legitimate reason to view such material.""

Sounds like they're leaving an out for anyone but actual terrorists...who would be up on terrorist charges anyway, with the "content viewing" charges only being tacked on charges (much the way they do it here - you never hear of a guy being charged with one thing).


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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: trendal] * 2
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My point was that it mentioned far-right propaganda, and that arguments made against immigration over there which has lead to these attacks have been described as far-right propaganda before, despite the fact that people who are concerned with these things should fall under the category of "people who have a legitimate reason to view such material." Am I wording that well enough?

If they have changed their definitions of either "far-right propaganda" or "those who may have a reason to view such material" then I will retract what I said.


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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: trendal] * 1
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:youseethisshit:

How is this "fake news", you're coming up with nonsense justifications for why its not real when it very clearly states "people who view far right propaganda". I dont give a fuck if they have to do to it 10 times, theyre still jailing people for viewing political material.

Edited by Bodhi of Ankou (10/06/17 05:11 PM)

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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: trendal] * 1
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trendal said:
"Users who view the forbidden content only once by mistake, or out of curiosity, will not be charged, and it is reported that there will be protections for journalists, academics, and "others who may have a legitimate reason to view such material.""

Sounds like they're leaving an out for anyone but actual terrorists...who would be up on terrorist charges anyway, with the "content viewing" charges only being tacked on charges (much the way they do it here - you never hear of a guy being charged with one thing).


So what's the point of the law then? I should be able to view whatever the fuck I want if it's not harming anyone.

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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: krypto2000]
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Would this be a sort of by default admission that they’re watching and logging what everyone is looking at on the internet, or is that fact just considered common knowledge at this point?

It seems like this could be a good excuse to focus that whole invasion of privacy goal in just that much tighter.


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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: krypto2000] * 1
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krypto2000 said:
trendal said:
"Users who view the forbidden content only once by mistake, or out of curiosity, will not be charged, and it is reported that there will be protections for journalists, academics, and "others who may have a legitimate reason to view such material.""

Sounds like they're leaving an out for anyone but actual terrorists...who would be up on terrorist charges anyway, with the "content viewing" charges only being tacked on charges (much the way they do it here - you never hear of a guy being charged with one thing).


So what's the point of the law then? I should be able to view whatever the fuck I want if it's not harming anyone.


That seems to be an eroding value. Its a turn I didn't expect.

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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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This thread was moved from Conspiracies and Cover-ups.

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Should be here, sorry.

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Re: UK to Imprison people who view "Far-right propaganda" with up to 15 years in jail (moved) [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
So what's the point of the law then? I should be able to view whatever the fuck I want if it's not harming anyone.


Isn't the very act of watching a video online, supporting those who made the video? What if those people choose to harm others? Couldn't it then be said that by watching those videos, you are supporting the murder of civilians?


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