Vajra said:

Vegan gains on youtube is doing really great work and provides links to scientific papers that hopefully should convince you to stop eating meat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ChzhgFaro

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LemurLemur said:

I thought joe Rogan was that annoying fat dude with the weird voice from pineapple express.

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Vegetarians are unhealthy and ‘mentally disturbed’, says new research

A study from the University of Graz says that contrary to popular opinion, vegetarian and vegan diets don’t make people healthier. In fact it found that vegetarians are ill more often, more susceptible to physical and mental disorders and generally have a lower quality of life than people who eat meat. They’re more at risk of cancer, have more heart attacks and are more likely to suffer from psychological disorders.

The study examined 1,320 people divided up into four groups separated by diet – vegetarians, meat eaters with lots of fruits and vegetables, people who ate relatively little meat, and people who ate a lot of it. Accounting for smoking and physical exercise, the researchers concluded the big difference in susceptibility to disease was dependent on diet.

Vegetarians, the study found, were more than twice as likely to have allergies as meat-eaters, they were three per cent more likely to contract cancer, and a massive 150 per cent more likely to have a heart attack. Vegetarians were also hit harder by 14 of the 18 illnesses monitored in the study – which included diabetes, migraines, and osteoporosis.

People who maintained a vegetarian diet were also found to be twice as likely to be ‘mentally disturbed’, reports several websites, and generally have poorer mental health. The University of Graz study says that vegetarians were twice as likely to suffer from anxiety or depression (a similar study from University of Hildesheim found that vegetarians suffered more from depressions, anxiety, psychosomatic complaints and eating disorders).

They also visit the doctor more frequently as they’re impacted more heavily by illnesses compared to meat eaters, who have a “significantly better quality of life in all categories” according to the research (the categories being physical and psychological health, social relationships and environment-related life quality.

It concluded: “Our study has shown that Austrian adults who consume a vegetarian diet are less healthy (in terms of cancer, allergies, and mental health disorders), have a lower quality of life, and also require more medical treatment.”

Speaking to The Austrian Times, study co-ordinator and epidemiologist Nathalie Burkert said: “We did find that vegetarians suffer more from certain conditions like asthma, cancer and mental illnesses than people that eat meat as well, but we cannot say what is the cause and what is the effect.

“There needs to be further study done before this question can be answered.”

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MeatSack said:

The lack of evidence in this thread is funny.
Why not back up your claims with science if you really think a vegetarian diet is that great and everyone should adopt it.
You all must know damn well that it's not as clear cut as you ppl make it out to be health wise.

https://thetab.com/uk/2017/02/16/vegetarians-unhealthy-mentally-disturbed-says-new-research-33067

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Vegetarians are unhealthy and ‘mentally disturbed’, says new research

A study from the University of Graz says that contrary to popular opinion, vegetarian and vegan diets don’t make people healthier. In fact it found that vegetarians are ill more often, more susceptible to physical and mental disorders and generally have a lower quality of life than people who eat meat. They’re more at risk of cancer, have more heart attacks and are more likely to suffer from psychological disorders.

The study examined 1,320 people divided up into four groups separated by diet – vegetarians, meat eaters with lots of fruits and vegetables, people who ate relatively little meat, and people who ate a lot of it. Accounting for smoking and physical exercise, the researchers concluded the big difference in susceptibility to disease was dependent on diet.

Vegetarians, the study found, were more than twice as likely to have allergies as meat-eaters, they were three per cent more likely to contract cancer, and a massive 150 per cent more likely to have a heart attack. Vegetarians were also hit harder by 14 of the 18 illnesses monitored in the study – which included diabetes, migraines, and osteoporosis.

People who maintained a vegetarian diet were also found to be twice as likely to be ‘mentally disturbed’, reports several websites, and generally have poorer mental health. The University of Graz study says that vegetarians were twice as likely to suffer from anxiety or depression (a similar study from University of Hildesheim found that vegetarians suffered more from depressions, anxiety, psychosomatic complaints and eating disorders).

They also visit the doctor more frequently as they’re impacted more heavily by illnesses compared to meat eaters, who have a “significantly better quality of life in all categories” according to the research (the categories being physical and psychological health, social relationships and environment-related life quality.

It concluded: “Our study has shown that Austrian adults who consume a vegetarian diet are less healthy (in terms of cancer, allergies, and mental health disorders), have a lower quality of life, and also require more medical treatment.”

Speaking to The Austrian Times, study co-ordinator and epidemiologist Nathalie Burkert said: “We did find that vegetarians suffer more from certain conditions like asthma, cancer and mental illnesses than people that eat meat as well, but we cannot say what is the cause and what is the effect.

“There needs to be further study done before this question can be answered.”

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HamHead said:

Is Austria like 'Merica?

Do they get the same factory farmed meat that us 'Mericans are exposed to? You know, where we have lakes of animal waste that we don't know what the fuck to do with. Or how the majority of antibiotics produced are for livestock.

Row row row your boat.

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daz01 said:

That's a random news article online with no evidence to back it up (citations). The evidence that animal products are dangerous is out there now - the power is within you to inform and teach yourself with an open mind (.e.g cave man mindset. me meat, me need meat). You've got the internet, you can hit up Google and Youtube.

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daz01 said:

And interestingly enough, alot of studies you find supporting animal products are actually funded by the meat + dairy industry and are typically not honest (e.g. they never take into account peoples natural cholesterol levels)

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daz01 said:Animal products have no unique nutrients we cannot get from plants. Before you go "But oh B12" - farmers feed cattle B12.

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I don't think we know enough about how the food we eat effects the body. It's not that easy.
Sure we seem to be pretty good at isolating compounds then running a bunch of tests on it but there's more to it than just its isolated compounds, which is a lot harder to research as the combinations of compounds and amounts are pretty much endless.
Besides that people clearly differ a lot. I doubt there's one good diet that's the best for everyone. I'm sure there are people who do great on a vegetarian diet but I also know there are people who don't do that well on it.
But you people seem to be convinced, it's all figured out, vegan diet for everyone is the way to go. Otherwise you're a psychopathic caveman.

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daz01 said:http://www.care2.com/causes/another-cardiology-chief-goes-vegan-convinced-yet.html

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