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what acid should i use?
    #2443887 - 03/17/04 05:12 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i have two different acids for extracting some dmt.

i have distilled white vinegar and muriatic acid. i heard that vinegar is better since it boils down with the mimosa/water, unlike muraitic. which should i use?

what happens if the ph is too high?

why do people use distilled water instead of tap water?

boiling the mimosa/distilled water/ acid wont hurt the alkaloids, will it? should the mixture be below boiling or above?

any help would be awesome. i really want the extraction to work this time......

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Re: what acid should i use? [Re: sancho]
    #2443920 - 03/17/04 05:29 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

the reasion distilled is better than tap water is because chlorine, chlorine is bad for just about any drug you wants to make.

as for the acids, you can use both with same result
, but if your gonna use vinegar make sure its white and distilled, y

if the ph is too high it will not form salts so it should be down to about ph2


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Re: what acid should i use? [Re: shriek]
    #2444329 - 03/17/04 08:07 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

how should i heat it (heat just the acid/water, the entire thing)
should it be boiling or just below? and for how long.

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Re: what acid should i use? [Re: sancho]
    #2444980 - 03/17/04 11:09 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

with making any drugs or any chem. reaction involving water, distilled water is needed. its only 60 cents a gallon from the grocer so its dumb to mess up a project just by being cheap. the difference in acetic vinegar acid and muriatic (hydrochloric) acid should be apparent to you


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Re: what acid should i use? [Re: Audi0]
    #2445189 - 03/17/04 11:41 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, the chemical difference is obvious. but thats not what i am concerned about. i would like to know what acid one should use for extracting dmt; is there a difference between the two, will one work while the other wont, etc.


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Re: what acid should i use? [Re: sancho]
    #2449925 - 03/19/04 01:44 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

you should grind your DMT source into a fine powder and pour heated naptha onto it. Heat for some time, filter and ave the naptha, repeat this once or twice more.

To the naptha add 3M HCl remove water layer that forms and save in a separte glass, add more HCl to the naptha and remove the water layer tha tforms, check pH. If it's about 4 then it's probably good.

If your solution is colored you can add activated charcoal pellets and boil at this point with the charcoal pellets, it'll suck up the color, you can pick out the activated charcoal pellets or filter them off. Collect the remaining liquid discard the charcoal.

Then to this add aqueos NaOH dropwise until the pH is neutralized. If you add too much NaOH and the pH goes above 7, add more acid until it's back down to 7.

You should get crystals falling out of solution once you add the base. Once pH is neutralized. heat up the water until all the crystal dissolve then cool slowly with insulation, after cooeld to room temp, put on an ice bath until all crystals formed in your extraction pot.

Hopefully the crystals are needle like. Pour over a funnel and collect crystals on filter paper, wash crystals with ice cold water and allow to dry.

Collect crystals.


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