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Offlinekolizion
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using an acid base extraction
    #2364091 - 02/21/04 04:08 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

my questions are quick and simple.

using an un named faq, I susbstituted my M. acid for hydroponics acid, wondering if i'll achieve same results as long as I maintain the ph levels accourding.

#2 durring defatting, do you digaurd the entire naptha layer, or does it seperate into 3 layers and disgaurd top layer (asuming 3 layers form)

#3 LYE - base .... does this really need to be used or can I use my hydro base to bring the ph back up...

(extracting Mucuna pruriens) if that helps


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Re: using an acid base extraction [Re: kolizion]
    #2364886 - 02/21/04 07:54 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

M. acid as in Muriatic Acid? And what is hydroponics acid?

do you mean Hydrochloric Acid?
-If so Hydrochloric acid = muriatic acid.

I hate all of those online teks, some of them aren't even remotely close to how acid base extractions are done in the lab. And the time tables they suggest for doing them over (1 - 2 days) is stupid.


Defatting you discard the non-polar layer, depending on your non-polar solvent it may or may not be the top layer. You should look up densities of your solvents on www.chemfinder.com to figure out what layer is what.


What base do you plan on using if not LYE, Hydro base doesn't mean anything to me. what do you mean by "hydro" base. Talking about specific chemicals helps me understand it more.


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Re: using an acid base extraction [Re: neuro]
    #2365331 - 02/21/04 10:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

there generic ph increses / decreasers


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Re: using an acid base extraction [Re: kolizion]
    #2366076 - 02/22/04 01:06 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: using an acid base extraction [Re: kolizion]
    #2366372 - 02/22/04 02:05 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

you wouldn't be able to use your hydroponics buffering solutions to do an A/B extraction...after all they're meant to buffer and the changes in pH would occur very gradually...you can get muriatic acid at any pool store, or home depot...it costs about 2$ for a gallon....lye can be bought at almost any grocery store...just look in the cleaning area...it's used to unclog drains...DO NOT USE DRAINO though. when you are deffatting, if you have three layers...that's bad..the middle layer is called an emullsion and has goodies and badies trapped in it...you need to wait until you have to clear layers. if the emulsion doesn't go away after a day, try adding a little salt to make the solution a little more polar(that usually will help)...when deffating, you do discard the entire naptha layer.


BTW the biggest reason that you can't use your hydroponic buffering solutions is that they will not reach the correct pH(most likely)...in the acid part, you want a pH of about 1-2, which is just a few drops pure litre of 1N muriatic acid. during the basic stage of the extraction you want a pH of about 12. buffering solutions are rarely able to exceed 3-4 pH and 8-9 pH....i think hydroponic buffering acid is citric acid...i'm not sure what the base is.


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