CookieCrumbs said:

Yes the dog is evil for being a dog and doing dog things even though almost all the bad dog things can be prevented by a responsible owner.



Lemme ask you this, if I had a pet tiger and the tiger got out and mauled someone would you blame me or the tiger?

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CookieCrumbs said:

Crystal G said:

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There are more than 25 media reports of pit bull attacks on people per week, and one death every 13 days.
By comparison, there are approximately 15 shark attacks on people per year in the United States, with one death every two years.
Pit bull attacks are rarely “dog bites”. Most attacks require hospitalization.
Although they represent only 4.5% of dogs in America, pit bulls killed 64.4% of 360 Americans who died as a result of a dog bite injury between 2005-2015, compared to Rottweilers at 11.4% and German Shepherds at 3.6%.

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I just now read how retarded this is. Comparing shark attacks in the US to dog attacks. We don't live sleep eat and walk by sharks every day.
And most sharks large enough to attack a human being tend to prefer not going into the shallows where most people swim and wade.


I hate the media.

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vandago said:

Does it bite babies faces if she coughs?

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Crystal G said:

CookieCrumbs said:

Yes the dog is evil for being a dog and doing dog things even though almost all the bad dog things can be prevented by a responsible owner.



Lemme ask you this, if I had a pet tiger and the tiger got out and mauled someone would you blame me or the tiger?

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There have been cases where the dog has been a family pet for years, have lived with the same children for years and have been perfectly fine, and then suddenly and spontaneously attack or maul one of the children.

How is it the owner's fault in those cases? Are they supposed to be psychic and think their family pet, who has never had any incidence of aggression, would one day maul one of their family members?

In any case, I don't believe vandango's version of the story that the baby was left alone. The baby was only 3 days old, not 3 months old. Very few parents leave a baby that young and newborn all alone. Usually one parent is always watching, or if you two need to eat, you bring the baby to the kitchen area with you. You only leave it alone when it's sleeping, and then you put it in the crib.

A 3 month old baby, sure, I could believe it. But not for a 3 day old.

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Crystal G said:

CookieCrumbs said:

Crystal G said:

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There are more than 25 media reports of pit bull attacks on people per week, and one death every 13 days.
By comparison, there are approximately 15 shark attacks on people per year in the United States, with one death every two years.
Pit bull attacks are rarely “dog bites”. Most attacks require hospitalization.
Although they represent only 4.5% of dogs in America, pit bulls killed 64.4% of 360 Americans who died as a result of a dog bite injury between 2005-2015, compared to Rottweilers at 11.4% and German Shepherds at 3.6%.

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I just now read how retarded this is. Comparing shark attacks in the US to dog attacks. We don't live sleep eat and walk by sharks every day.
And most sharks large enough to attack a human being tend to prefer not going into the shallows where most people swim and wade.


I hate the media.

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I thought that was a retarded comparison too.

But actually, fishermen have been catching some baby Great Whites along the coast of California, like Huntington Pier, where surfers and swimmers go.

I think because of overfishing and pollution, sharks are starting to come in closer and closer to the coast in search of food.

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vandago said:

I agree that bull dogs and shar peis, and other dogs you have to mutilate so they survive should be banned.

There should also be a limit to how much you can sell a dog for. 

Really anyone registering a dog, should also have to pay to take a week or two of classes on dog training, and what can happen if they are idiots.  You are seeing more aggression from pits, because more idiots get pits. I know a lot of idiots that seek pits out just for status, then are aggressive with them through training, then dump them off somewhere because they can't stand their high energy.  The dog is a high energy dog, but so is a weimaranar, and weimys can be dicks, mine can be a dick...and he's sensitive to environment changes, very.  I keep him secure and I pay close attention to him.  He's never bit any aside from people who just walk into my house when they shouldn't.  One day my landlord showed up and walked right in, didn't knock or announce himself, I had no clue.....my dog went running for the door and bit him in the hand.  I yelled at my landlord for the incident, he knew I had two large dogs.  He deeply apologized and knew he was in the wrong.

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Crystal G said:

CookieCrumbs said:

Yes the dog is evil for being a dog and doing dog things even though almost all the bad dog things can be prevented by a responsible owner.



Lemme ask you this, if I had a pet tiger and the tiger got out and mauled someone would you blame me or the tiger?

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There have been cases where the dog has been a family pet for years, have lived with the same children for years and have been perfectly fine, and then suddenly and spontaneously attack or maul one of the children.

How is it the owner's fault in those cases? Are they supposed to be psychic and think their family pet, who has never had any incidence of aggression, would one day maul one of their family members?

In any case, I don't believe vandango's version of the story that the baby was left alone. The baby was only 3 days old, not 3 months old. Very few parents leave a baby that young and newborn all alone. Usually one parent is always watching, or if you two need to eat, you bring the baby to the kitchen area with you. You only leave it alone when it's sleeping, and then you put it in the crib.

A 3 month old baby, sure, I could believe it. But not for a 3 day old.

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Dog bite “statistics” are based off of media reports found online where pit bull type attacks are proven to be reported thousands of times more often than dog bite stories involving other breeds. Hardly a scientific, objective, or accurate way to collect information and in fact, there is a proven bias and over reporting when it comes to dogs labeled as pit bulls.

This “google-research” is then taken and compared with media reports involving individual, specific dog breeds. Like, a Labrador Retriever.



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Which is why State Farm Insurance, the largest insurance company who collects more data than the U.S. Government and makes policy decisions simply based on risks and underwriting, does not discriminate against this loosely defined group of breeds.
“Decisions are made on a case by case basis for those instances,” State Farm spokeswoman Heather Paul told HuffPost. “Pit bulls in particular are often misidentified when a bite incident occurs, so reliable bite statistics related to the dogs’ breed are unreliable and serve no purpose.”
Neither does the White House, Centers For Disease Control, American Veterinary Medical Association, American Bar Association, ASPCA, American Kennel Club, American Pet Dog Trainers Association, International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants, American Animal Hospital Association, and the list goes on and on...

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The U.S. National Safety Council has collected data on your likelihood of being killed by a dog of any breed, as well as your likelihood of being killed by other risks.

The data is defined and the parameters are clear.

In 2014, the U.S. National Safety Council showed that your chances of dying by a dog bite are 1 in 116,448. That’s just a number though; to put that number into perspective, your chances of dying by legal execution are pretty similar, 1 in 127,717.

You are, in fact, twice as likely to die by a hornet, bee or wasp sting than a dog, 1 in 55,764.

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Maybe more striking is the fact that you are FAR more likely to die from eating a hot dog (choking from inhalation of food) than from being attacked by an actual dog.

Death by a real dog- 1 in 116,448.

Death by a hot dog- 1 in 3,375.

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vandago said:

I'd again like anyone to show me ANY puppy that is vicious and mean

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