vandago said:

According to their story? Ya cause if I fucked up and left my child in the room with an animal that attacked it, I go ahead and get life in prison. Of course they aren't going to say that.  Do you write the governor every time you hot rail tweek?  Of course not. When people fuck up they do damage control.

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cannabinated said:

Never said they weren't.  I said they were historically aggressive. I just think that most of the time it is conditioning that causes these problems. If you look at the map most of the instances of attacks are in inner-cities, the south, and other places where dog fighting is part of the culture.

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vandago said:

Ok, so not a pitbull?  Mixed with what?  It's a mutt.

It has no details what so ever.  Most likely either a fake news story propagated by anti pit fucks, or parents trying to cover up the fact they left their child unattended.

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Crystal G said:

cannabinated said:

Never said they weren't.  I said they were historically aggressive. I just think that most of the time it is conditioning that causes these problems. If you look at the map most of the instances of attacks are in inner-cities, the south, and other places where dog fighting is part of the culture.

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That's a good point, although there's a ton around the Midwest too. And I have to wonder about the ones in Washington, Oregon, and in Canada. Those areas don't strike me as dog fighting places.

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Tantrika said:

Hate that this brings out some prejudiced stereotyping,
but aside from the major city locations with inner-city and poor/gang oriented neighbourhoods
the ones in the center of Canada are probably Regina and Winnipeg,
which are typically associated with high violence due to Native gangs

not sure about the abundance of dots in BC,
but a quick google search pulled a result regarding dog fighting on reservations in BC
http://www.animaladvocates.com/top-stories/reserves.htm

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$25 per tail

Some of Manitoba's First Nations have resorted to dog culls to control the problem. Though Meeches said his community is not one of them, Colucci said it happens in others.

She and Brooker said they want to collaborate with elders, chiefs and councils to minimize the number of dogs being killed.

"They were dumping the bodies just randomly in the forest," Colucci said. "You can see the chopped-off tails, because that's what they're getting paid for."

Dog bounty money could be used to pay for a spay and neuter clinic, she said.

But Dakota Tipi First Nation Chief David Pashe said that approach may not work in his community.

"A lot of our people are dog lovers.… They hate to see that [spay and neutering] happen to the animals," he said, adding indigenous populations believe dogs to be sacred animals.

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/dogs-shot-manitoba-first-nations-1.3408167

Goddamn...

Crystal G said:

vandago said:

Ok, so not a pitbull?  Mixed with what?  It's a mutt.

It has no details what so ever.  Most likely either a fake news story propagated by anti pit fucks, or parents trying to cover up the fact they left their child unattended.

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You're speculating.

I swear, pit bull advocates are fucking crazy. They blame everybody, they blame the victim, they blame the owners, they blame society, they blame everybody except for the dog.

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Yes the dog is evil for being a dog and doing dog things even though almost all the bad dog things can be prevented by a responsible owner.



Lemme ask you this, if I had a pet tiger and the tiger got out and mauled someone would you blame me or the tiger?

Crystal G said:

Tantrika said:

Hate that this brings out some prejudiced stereotyping,
but aside from the major city locations with inner-city and poor/gang oriented neighbourhoods
the ones in the center of Canada are probably Regina and Winnipeg,
which are typically associated with high violence due to Native gangs

not sure about the abundance of dots in BC,
but a quick google search pulled a result regarding dog fighting on reservations in BC
http://www.animaladvocates.com/top-stories/reserves.htm

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Isn't it also a stretch to say that ALL of these bites are related to dog fighting?

I mean I literally just posted two links where the family dog killed babies, and they weren't part of some dog fighting organization.

I could definitely see a pretty fair amount of these bites being related to dog fighting organizations, but definitely not all, or even most.

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Well, for my way of looking at it,
my parents had their dog off a reservation,
and it's not an uncommon thing to do up here, particularly in the praries
they are typically rotty, pitbull, shepard, husky crosses of some sort
frequently with wolf blood, hunting dogs when kept as pets

but now am finding out that she may well have been pushed to kill other dogs
before my father ever brought her home
and the neighbour's dog may have been part of a pattern
rather than an aberration

sure, it is possible that people got their pitbulls as a puppy
raised it in a familiar setting
and the baby upset the routine and they snapped
but am not sure, and did not click through enough of the links to see if such background was included
just saw the map, mention of Canada, and thought a Canadian chiming in may have some worth

but now wish that just keeping on scrolling had been the decision instead

Would not leave a baby alone with a gun
would not leave a baby alone with a hunting or guard dog

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Your analogy fails, OP. Black people as a race exist because of natural selection. Any given dog breed exists because of artificial selection. Therefore breeds are not equivalent to races.

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Crystal G said:

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There are more than 25 media reports of pit bull attacks on people per week, and one death every 13 days.
By comparison, there are approximately 15 shark attacks on people per year in the United States, with one death every two years.
Pit bull attacks are rarely “dog bites”. Most attacks require hospitalization.
Although they represent only 4.5% of dogs in America, pit bulls killed 64.4% of 360 Americans who died as a result of a dog bite injury between 2005-2015, compared to Rottweilers at 11.4% and German Shepherds at 3.6%.

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