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What's out there "lesser" roid wise?
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Hey guys,

It has been years since using anything extra supplement wise. I used pro hormones a few times, which sucked because they are terrible for your body, but I did put on and keep a good 30 lbs. I am about 206 lbs now, running around 12 % bf. Gym 5-6 days a week, standard split routines.

I don't wanna go the full test injection route, and honestly don't want anything that could affect estro levels and run a risk of gyno, which I already have a tiny bit of from the PH's.

Been years since I have looked, and it looks like there is so much stuff out there it's a bit daunting. I hears SARMs are good, but which ones for putting on lean mass, while cutting a bit if possible. Anyone know of anything besides SARMs? Preferably something legal, which I can buy online. I know a few sites that sell peptides etc..

Wutcha guys think?      :shrug:


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Re: What's out there "lesser" roid wise? [Re: Arose Chaos]
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Pre workout supplements like N.O. Xplode, Protein Shakes like Muscle Milk, Fat burners like Hydroxycut just some examples to boost your workout these brands are just examples um what else there are couple semi legal drugs nootropics.

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Re: What's out there "lesser" roid wise? [Re: tdubz]
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tdubz said:
Pre workout supplements like N.O. Xplode, Protein Shakes like Muscle Milk, Fat burners like Hydroxycut just some examples to boost your workout these brands are just examples um what else there are couple semi legal drugs nootropics.


Should have clarified, my bad. I take pre workout, protein and all the regular stuff I get at the vitamin shoppe every month. Thinking more along the lines of the next "level". If I could get my hands on real test or hgh I would be game as long as I had some legit nolva or a good serm.


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Re: What's out there "lesser" roid wise? [Re: Arose Chaos]
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206 at a 12%BF man? You must be an actual monster. How tall are you? And if you got your BF measured with the skin calipers... I'm sorry but it's bullshit. I got measured by those a couple weeks ago and the women who did it said I was at like 8.5BF%. :facepalm: I personally think I'm more around 19-21%.

Honestly man, there's not a ton of supplements out there that will give you noticeably more gains and not fuck with your estrogen. Cause basically every sup that will give you more gains is a steroid that will aromatize into E.

Steroids that are extremely effective and don't aromatize are anadrol and tren off the top of my head. Masteron might not either.

If you're not willing to go the injectable testosterone route, then stay away from steroids completely. It just wouldn't make any sense at all to do other steroids without a test base.

Honestly the most gains I ever noticed from a natural supplement was creatine. I was taking 3.75g a day for like 2.5 months and it worked nicely. There's this other supplement you might be interested in called methyl andro. It's just an OTC test booster you can buy from GNC. I'm not sure if it was all real or a litttle bit of placebo but it really did make me hornier, have a thicker back(seriously the back pumps were incredible) and a little stronger. If I ever buy a "natural test booster" over the counter again it'll be methyl andro.

You're not going to take anything legal and be like, "holy shit wow this stuff works and the effects are noticeable and blowing my mind." That's what steroids are for. So whatever you end up taking, don't expect too much and be disappointed by the minor boost it ends up giving you


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Edited by Webster10 (03/31/17 05:10 AM)

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Re: What's out there "lesser" roid wise? [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
206 at a 12%BF man? You must be an actual monster. How tall are you? And if you got your BF measured with the skin calipers... I'm sorry but it's bullshit. I got measured by those a couple weeks ago and the women who did it said I was at like 8.5BF%. :facepalm: I personally think I'm more around 19-21%.

Honestly man, there's not a ton of supplements out there that will give you noticeably more gains and not fuck with your estrogen. Cause basically every sup that will give you more gains is a steroid that will aromatize into E.

Steroids that are extremely effective and don't aromatize are anadrol and tren off the top of my head. Masteron might not either.

If you're not willing to go the injectable testosterone route, then stay away from steroids completely. It just wouldn't make any sense at all to do other steroids without a test base.

Honestly the most gains I ever noticed from a natural supplement was creatine. I was taking 3.75g a day for like 2.5 months and it worked nicely. There's this other supplement you might be interested in called methyl andro. It's just an OTC test booster you can buy from GNC. I'm not sure if it was all real or a litttle bit of placebo but it really did make me hornier, have a thicker back(seriously the back pumps were incredible) and a little stronger. If I ever buy a "natural test booster" over the counter again it'll be methyl andro.

You're not going to take anything legal and be like, "holy shit wow this stuff works and the effects are noticeable and blowing my mind." That's what steroids are for. So whatever you end up taking, don't expect too much and be disappointed by the minor boost it ends up giving you


I hear you, and yea BF was with calipers, and also the tape method. (taping around waist and neck) I am pretty lean for being 5'10, but if I had to guess I would say maybe 14% would be accurate but definitely not more than that. I keep hearing about this andro stuff. I did a pretty extensive search last night on a lot of sarms, people say they work but shit their expensive. couple hundred for a 2-3 item stack.


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Re: What's out there "lesser" roid wise? [Re: Arose Chaos] * 1
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I've heard of some nasty side effects from SARM's as well, and from user reports, apparently they do cause test suppression, even if significantly less than traditional steroids.

How old are you?

If you're really at 12% BF at 206, you are quite large. Wanting to get a lot bigger than that is perhaps misguided.

Not that there is anything inherently wrong with always wanting more mass per say, but i can relate to never being happy with my size, and i've come to realize it's largely related to pervasive issues i have with self-image that manifest in some level of body dysmorphia. It can be quite extreme at times, but ebbs and flows in intensity.

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