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Enkidu
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Fan and Mist at Night?
#23515000 - 08/06/16 02:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello, I am new and have searched all over trying to find any information on if it is best to leave your cakes alone at night, or if it is fine and beneficial to fan and mist during the night cycle. I have not had much luck.
I have some BRF cakes in a SGTFC designed as close to spec as possible (for me). 12/12 light cycle.
I just put them in the other day and currently I just mist maybe 2-3 times during the day, morning mid and night, fan afterward, and fan every couple of hours or so if I am home.
Thanks
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mindbentempire



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Re: Fan and Mist at Night? [Re: Enkidu]
#23515019 - 08/06/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I generally set an alarm every 2 hours through the night to make sure... Ah who am I kidding.
Dude don't worry about it, get some sleep.
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Supalemonhaze
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Quote:
mindbentempire said:
Dude don't worry about it, get some sleep.

In case you didn't know, mushrooms and mycelium grows faster when you aren't looking at them.
BTW, don't fan your cakes when you don't mist. Actually, you can go without fanning any at all if you have enough FAE. Fanning a semi-dry cake will get you a dry cake, which is not good at any point in your grow. Just fan when you mist, if you are sold on fanning that is. Also, when you fan, you only do so for a handful of times, not for minutes or anything. Fanning is just so you hit your cakes with a short "wave" of airflow so evaporation is kick started. If you have proper FAE, evaporation will happen regardless, which is why you can skip the fanning altogether.
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Shroom_Goddess
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Honestly, my cakes always do better when i leave them alone more.. Strange i know.
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Supalemonhaze
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Not strange at all, that's what everybody ends up learning when they stop fiddling around with their grows a hundred times a day.
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Enkidu
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Thank you, I appreciate the replies. I am still trying to get the hang of when the cakes need misting or not. I usually wash my hands thoroughly and give them a brief touch with my finger, but it seems that they feel the same relative moisture all the time. So I have just been misting until I see some gloss or whatever you want to call it. 3 times a day max at the moment.
Thanks for the advice on fanning as well. I have probably been over doing it with the fanning then. My cakes seem to be starting to develop what I believe are hyphae knots, fingers crossed.
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mindbentempire



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Re: Fan and Mist at Night? [Re: Enkidu]
#23515239 - 08/06/16 07:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I also subscribe to no fanning at all. Or at most a quick 1 flap with the lid after misting.
I find useful judging the moisture of the cakes by picking them up after a few days and comparing weight to when you take them out after your 24h dunk.
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: Fan and Mist at Night? [Re: Enkidu]
#23515263 - 08/06/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enkidu said: So I have just been misting until I see some gloss or whatever you want to call it.
That is exactly what you should be doing. Just make sure that the beads of moisture are almost entirely gone before you re-mist or else you will waterlog your cake. You want the cake to be alternating between glossy and almost dry for the best results. This is one of the reasons why reading humidity inside the FC is useless, mushrooms do not like a constant 90%+ humidity, it needs to alternate so evaporation can happen.
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spacechildo
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Re: Fan and Mist at Night? [Re: Enkidu]
#23515290 - 08/06/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Enkidu said: a SGTFC designed as close to spec as possible (for me).
care to elaborate?
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Enkidu
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Thanks again for the advice, I definitely appreciate it.
I made a terrarium basically to spec. The holes may be slightly off in terms of a perfect 2x2. And I had to squeeze it in my closet, there is room on all sides for air flow, but the top basically bends slightly so my lid is not air tight. There were some gaps on the edges I had to put a thin approximately 1 in. wide layer of seram wrap to close in the gap.
I hope it sounds worse than it actually is. I was actually curious about my set up because it is in my closet. I could take a picture. But I have a very light fan on the floor, underneath my set up, that causes very slight air flow as well. Almost unnoticeable at the level of my terrarium. I wasn't sure if I should use the fan or not. But my closet is very secluded and there is virtually no air flow if I were to leave it be. And I was under the impression that the terrarium does need at least a normal air flow found in an open room. I was hoping this small fan would counteract that problem. Advice on that would be welcome as well, and again, I could get a pic if that would help understand the setup.
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spacechildo
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Re: Fan and Mist at Night? [Re: Enkidu]
#23515320 - 08/06/16 08:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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closets are pretty damn bad for sgfc's.. same with fans. just follow the tek.
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Enkidu
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The closet is the only option due to whom I live with
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mupetmower
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Re: Fan and Mist at Night? [Re: Enkidu]
#23515411 - 08/06/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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another person growing under someone's nose? that is never good, dude..
lets see a picture. from how you describe it, it sounds like there isnt enough room for the SGFC in there, and it's basically getting no use from it's holes.
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spacechildo
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Re: Fan and Mist at Night? [Re: Enkidu]
#23515446 - 08/06/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Enkidu said: The closet is the only option due to whom I live with
then growing mushrooms isn't an option for you. get your own place first.
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Psychedel.EXE
AKA Old Uncle Nutty



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Quote:
spacechildo said:
Quote:
Enkidu said: The closet is the only option due to whom I live with
then growing mushrooms isn't an option for you. get your own place first.

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Mad Season
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Or do a mono in the closet. That's way better than a sgfc. But yeah growing behind some ones back?
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Enkidu
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Re: Fan and Mist at Night? [Re: mupetmower]
#23515544 - 08/06/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well that is a little discouraging. Was it a mistake to post and ask for help?
My life choices are mine alone to make, and the consequences are mine alone to face.
I am 25 years old and I live with my grandparents. I go to college and I work and I pay them rent. My conscious is clean as far as growing a mushroom without their knowledge or consent.
In case anyone is still willing to help me, in light of learning these things about me, I will post my set up.
Or if I am unworthy, I will simply leave and try and figure it out on my own i guess..
Thanks again to those who helped..


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mupetmower
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Re: Fan and Mist at Night? [Re: Enkidu]
#23515553 - 08/06/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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but see that's where you are 100% wrong. any consequences might not be just your's "alone" to make. you could unknowingly get your grandparents in legal trouble.. growing in a house with others, without their consent is pretty frowned apon here. because of just that.
doesnt mean you shouldnt have asked questions here, but it does mean that you shouldnt be growing under your grandparent's noses, in their house.
about the setup, though, yeah.. that SGFC has zero room to breathe. it's not going to get near enough airflow. you want at least a foot from all walls, and at the very least, 4in from the table it's on. also want head space. the main problem right now, with this set up(besides it being in your grandparents house without them knowing) is there is no room on the sides for it to breathe.
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Mushierage
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Re: Fan and Mist at Night? [Re: Enkidu]
#23515560 - 08/06/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't think you're not unworthy or unwelcome. But nobody here is going to condone growing something in somebody else's house without their consent.
If you're going to be successful here, be ready to accept a fair amount of constructive criticism. If you listen to most of the good advice, you'll go far and be respected. If you ignore the good advice, do not expect to maintain any decent level of respect.
Just the way it is. Welcome to The Shroomery.
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Enkidu
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Re: Fan and Mist at Night? [Re: mupetmower]
#23515569 - 08/06/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I do understand that but there is no scenario where I would ever allow anyone to face re precautions for my actions. A scenario in which any of this is even discovered is extremely unlikely.
Well, now I really lost interest in all of this. I'm going to go meditate and try and figure out if I am doing something wrong here.
I wish you all the best.
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