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Assassinations
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Seem to be big headlines for obvious reasons the most being that they effect high profile people. Was watching a documentry once where it said when the needs of the people are not met and protesting doesn't work the next thing we see is assassination attempts. We can already see this happening in the States with police. Im surprised not only now but in the past their hasn't been any attempts on political figures. I think once it gets to this point there will be a huge crackdown and change in policing and the power of politicans.


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Re: Assassinations [Re: Anahata]
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A British politician was assassinated a month or so ago.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/06/british-politics-in-turmoil-after-mps-murder.html


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (08/04/16 12:19 PM)

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Re: Assassinations [Re: koods]
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Wait to see what would happen if Trump got elected, God forbid...I don't think he'd last a year.


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Re: Assassinations [Re: Thayendanegea]
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There was that young guy that was going for a police man's gun at a Trump rally.

I don't think most people want to throw their life away for some stupid political statement.  There are a lot of crazy people however.  I think a trump supporter could be crazy enough to try with Hillary just as easily.

The grass is crazy on both sides of the fence.


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Re: Assassinations [Re: Thayendanegea]
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Political assassinations usually backfire or don't actually cause the change the assassin wanted. The assassination of Ytzak Rabin was really effective at changing the politics in Israel in the way the assassin intended.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/26/shot-in-the-heart


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Assassinations [Re: koods]
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Even though sirhan sirhan was more crazy than politically motivated, the assassination of Robert Kennedy was probably the most consequential assassination because he most likely would have won the presidency if he didn't die.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Assassinations [Re: koods] * 1
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Jfk getting the old pumpkin head worked.  Vietnam war continued and increased, the CIA remained, the oil tax was changed back.


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Re: Assassinations [Re: Morel Guy]
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Umm, Johnson pretty much continued with JFKs policies.


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Re: Assassinations [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Political assassinations usually backfire or don't actually cause the change the assassin wanted. The assassination of Ytzak Rabin was really effective at changing the politics in Israel in the way the assassin intended.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/26/shot-in-the-heart


If anti-Vietnam Civil Rights activists killed Kennedy, they nailed it and achieved all their goals. Person above beat me to it, but it's true. None of that legislation would have passed if demons hadn't got J.K.


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Re: Assassinations [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Umm, Johnson pretty much continued with JFKs policies.


He repealed the oil tax

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Re: Assassinations [Re: EllisDSox]
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and the oil tax is a game changer becasue?

Lol. I just looked it up. The conspiracy that shooting JFK was a conspiracy of the Texas oil industry upset about being taxed. JFK WAS KILLED OVER TAX POLICY !!!!  :facepalm:



BERSERK DESTROYER said:
koods said:
Political assassinations usually backfire or don't actually cause the change the assassin wanted. The assassination of Ytzak Rabin was really effective at changing the politics in Israel in the way the assassin intended.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/26/shot-in-the-heart


If anti-Vietnam Civil Rights activists killed Kennedy, they nailed it and achieved all their goals. Person above beat me to it, but it's true. None of that legislation would have passed if demons hadn't got J.K.


Youre getting your dead Kennedy's all mixed up,

Vietnam wasn't even on anyone's radar when JFK was killed. If anything, Oswald was upset about Kennedy's Cuba stance, and that policy didn't change until last year.

The motivation of RFK's killer was his stance on Israel. It had nothing to do with Vietnam.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (08/04/16 01:52 PM)

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Re: Assassinations [Re: koods]
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JFK started serious US intervention in Vietnam. I have ironclad academic sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_of_the_United_States_in_the_Vietnam_War#John_F._Kennedy_.281961.E2.80.9363.29

I'm not saying people deliberately turned the guy into a martyr, it just seems that the way to accelerate given political aims is to kill somebody who agrees entirely with your own views.


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Re: Assassinations [Re: EllisDSox]
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I know JFK started the intervention, but it wasn't a big story at the time. Nobody at the time had any idea what vietnam would become .


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Re: Assassinations [Re: koods]
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Precisely, and a good part of why it escalated comes down to a policy based on following all of Kennedy's incipient plans.

INCIPIENT.


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Re: Assassinations [Re: Morel Guy]
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I often pray in my own way that no lone gunman will try to stop the NWO with a bullet... seems like it's just what they'd use to crackdown, as you said Anahata.

Sometimes I imagine an organized group might perform synchronized asasination of multiple key targets around the world; and even that falls short, not to mention impractical.

We'd see drones in the sky minutes later.


Quote:
"(...)the president could conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances like a catastrophic attack like the ones suffered on December 7, 1941, and September 11, 2001,” Holder continued(...)

(...)Holder’s “refusal to rule out the possibility of drone strikes on American citizens and on American soil is more than frightening — it is an affront the Constitutional due process rights of all Americans.”


Eric Holder: Drone Strike To Kill U.S. Citizen On American Soil Legal, Hypothetically

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2813857



We may see oath keepers stand and make arrests.  This is something I could get behind:



Police Magazine has put out a great article: http://m.policemag.com/article/2471/who-are-the-oath-keepers

Ken O'Keefe works with the Oath Keepers, former marine.  He is also spearheading a "world citizen" movement (TJP - Truth Justice Peace) of individual sovereignty and independence from debt-driven fractional reserve banking.


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2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


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Edited by flickedbic (08/04/16 02:29 PM)

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Re: Assassinations [Re: EllisDSox]
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So how did his assassinate change anything?

Assassinating an elected politician isn't very effective because his policies are probably going to be continued. Assassinating a candidate, on the other hand, can truly stop a political movement. That's what happened with RFK.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (08/04/16 02:19 PM)

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Re: Assassinations [Re: koods]
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It locked Johnson into a policy based significantly on the things Kennedy was, or could be seen as, trying to do. If he hadn't died, Kennedy may well not have got into Vietnam in the same way.

This is the end of this now. I don't have any emotional stake in this argument, but I assume by the time you read this you will be fully aware of the superiority of my position and the degradation of your own.

koods said:
Assassinating an elected politician isn't very effective because his policies are probably going to be continued. Assassinating a candidate, on the other hand, can truly stop a political movement. That's what happened with RFK.


Probably true in general. Was that a ninja edit or am I going stupid? (Edit: Never mind).


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Edited by EllisDSox (08/04/16 02:21 PM)

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Re: Assassinations [Re: EllisDSox]
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Well I know for a fact the oil tax was hard on some people.  My grandpa had thirty something cable rigs and stopped drlling due to the tax.  And sure as shit Vietnam was on the radar in '62.


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Re: Assassinations [Re: Morel Guy]
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Koods just doesn't understand what it's like for the working man living with the oil tax and being forced to carpet bomb the Asian jungle.


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Re: Assassinations [Re: EllisDSox]
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It takes awhile for silent change.  JFK dying did not just change things over night.  By '65 things were much different.


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