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C20H25N3O
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Re: America Is Assassinating Dictators [Re: Silversoul]
#14381797 - 05/01/11 09:30 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Silversoul said: At the very least, we should make the oil companies pay for the wars we fight on their behalf.
I believe the opposite is occurring, but its much more than the 'oil companies'
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Doc_T
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Re: America Is Assassinating Dictators [Re: C20H25N3O]
#14381808 - 05/01/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Assassination is a political act. This killing was military in nature, Khaddfi and his bunker were targeted as a military asset.
I'd have thought the lesson was learned during the First Gulf War- Don't hide in the leader's underground bunker, the Americans just love to bomb those things.
And we have the know-how to do it right.
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Re: America Is Assassinating Dictators [Re: Doc_T]
#14381869 - 05/01/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd feel a lot worse about this if we weren't talking about gaddafi. We gave him a lot of chances to stop this before it escalated but he refused until he started to lose. Before this plea for a cease fire he was hiring thugs to club demonstrators in the streets, hiring snipers to kill any civilians that were gathered over a certain number, etc. We warned him, the UN warned him, and he laughed while murdering and torturing his own people.
I also think you could call it an assassination, but you could also call the way Saddam Hussein died an assassination by your definition. He died suddenly, also a bit secretly, and he was a prominent political figure. So where does that line of thinking end and a military KIA or judicial execution begin?
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Re: America Is Assassinating Dictators [Re: Halsfield]
#14381873 - 05/01/11 09:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Saddam Hussein? Dude was captured and tried, then executed. Yes? Am I mis-remembering?
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Halsfield

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Re: America Is Assassinating Dictators [Re: Doc_T]
#14381883 - 05/01/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Saddam Hussein? Dude was captured and tried, then executed. Yes? Am I mis-remembering?
Read Ops definition of assassination.
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Re: America Is Assassinating Dictators [Re: Halsfield]
#14381889 - 05/01/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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OP is Coaster, I can't be bothered with his definition. I took Poli Sci back in the day, and I also was in the military. I'm well aware of the difference between assassination and destruction of a military asset.
...but if this thread is about Coaster making up words, then have fun. I'm out.
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Re: America Is Assassinating Dictators [Re: Coaster]
#14381978 - 05/01/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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1) Saif al-Arab wasn't assassinated. And even if he was targetted intentionally, we can't prove it.
2) America has been assassinating foreign political and military leaders since before any of us were born. This shouldn't be a surprise to any thinking person.
3) As for your horror at assassination, wouldn't you rather than we killed our enemies' leaders quickly and easily without the use of huge military force, expendature and the lives of our citizens? I can't imagine how many £ have been wasted by Britain and France's bombing in Libya so far. One 500lb bomb dropped on Gadaffi's head would have sorted this shit out a lot cheaper.
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Halsfield

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Re: America Is Assassinating Dictators [Re: Doc_T]
#14386439 - 05/02/11 01:12 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: OP is Coaster, I can't be bothered with his definition.
...but if this thread is about Coaster making up words, then have fun. I'm out. 
When my comment is directed at him and you're replying to it you should probably know what the reference was. It was talked about more than once in this thread so I didn't feel I needed to quote a major part of the thread. It was on page 1 about 15 posts in.
He's also not making up words but he's using a dictionary definition that is open to a lot of interpretation. By his definition almost any political figure that is killed is an assassination which I don't personally agree with. That is why I brought up the example of saddam hussein and how his death could fit into his stated definition.
Edited by Halsfield (05/02/11 01:16 AM)
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Re: America Is Assassinating Dictators [Re: Halsfield]
#14386737 - 05/02/11 02:55 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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i think the way to handle this is to come up with another dozen threads about the subject, and also include in the topic "osama is dead? anyone heard? we assassinate this dictator plus gadaffis children"
locked? what? no way
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