Salomon said:

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The Moose said:

IME moonflower seeds don't produce as strong of effects as fresh leaves. I have personally eaten 6 with no noted effects except a slight dry mouth.

That being said I spent the night in the hospital when I was 16 because I ingested a decent portion of moonflower leaves and was under the impression it was 1980 for about 12 hours. This happened this decade and I wasn't alive in 1980.

Also datura is a dirty word. It's moonflower!!

Be safe!!

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hahaha I'll have to keep it in mind not to call it datura :P and I only have access to Seeds and wouldn't have the time to grow any plants at this frame in time, plus I'm more happy to ingest a low dose of seeds as opposed to the flowers because to me it seems easier just to work with, thats just me though

Sorry to hear about that glad that you made it through though Would be a crazy experience thinking about about it though!

And thankyou safety is the main precaution here =)

musiclover420 said:

I have considered this minus the bufo, I have never dabbled with datura or its relatives at all yet though.

One thing to consider is the seed potency probably varies a ton, so a standardized extract could be smart if done right. I meant datura mainly but this is true for all 3 somewhat I am sure. Maybe start with them separately too just to be safe and see how they mix individually. Starting very low like you plan too will make it more safe anyways but getting an idea for how they mix separately could be helpful to your experiment.

Things like ginger can work great for nausea too, I love some nice ginger tea regardless.

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Yeah that's what I have thought about the potency, and I've read only good things about the seeds in low doses, only 1 or 2 negatives and that was comments on what they've heard. Also, I've read that the bad stuff in the seeds are ultimately only psychoactive at higher doses, due to the small amount contained in each seed. I can't think of the name's as my memory isn't the best. And would you recommend trying the datura on its own, as opposed to trying it with cannabis to see the effects it has on that? Also I would most likely have little to no resources to do an extract, but I'm sure the seeds will do fine hopefully

I've heard mixed results with the ginger, mainly on the positive side though. If I've got ginger at the time of ingestion & remember - I'll be sure to use abit. Never heard of a tea with it though, that's probably because I don't drink normal tea either

musiclover420 said:

I don't see any issues with trying it with cannabis, if you smoke regularly you still should notice any abnormalities from the datura.

Pretty sure they would synergize well if anything as long as you didn't overdo the datura.

Extracting is definitely not necessary just though I would throw that out there as I remember seeing a shroomery recipe for an LSA datura combo extract that involved making a standardized datura extract to divide into microdoses to mix with the LSA extract. Seemed like one of the safer ways to experiment with it to me but I tend to be overcautious with some of the more intense plants.

What do you mean mixed results about ginger? Like combining it with things? Ginger tea is great becouse it is really relaxing and mellow as well as healthy, add a little sweetener and lemon juice and your taste buds and body will thank you. It doesn't take much ginger at all either as it is some potent stuff. I like to make super strong ginger tea to mix with juice which is delicious can do wonders for the stomach too.

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Ill definetaley be posting here the effects i notice when combining the 2

It's all sweet man you can never be too cautious anyway :P especially with your own health, but I do agree it would be a more safer way of ingestion no doubt.

I haven't really heard much about the ginger tea but I'm sure it would be good for you and that does sound intriguing as well as pleasant! might look into it, and I meant that I've heard mixed results with using it to eliminate nausea for HBWR but I should of been more straight foward, my bad

musiclover420 said:

Sweet, I will be looking forward to an update!

Yeah that is how I view it too, I have learned the hard way myself and witnessed and heard many horror stories as well, that really teaches you

I love ginger myself but I also love tea and am trying to be healthier, plus I get the occasional stomach issues so its nice to have an herbal remedy on hand.

Ginger is definitely no miracle cure, though it can help a ton. HBWR and relatives can also cause pretty sever nausea in some people it seems

No problem I just wanted to clarify

Check out this home brewed bottle of ginger ale:

Super easy to make and super delicious, as you can see it can get pretty damn fizzy too! Just throwing that out there

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Will be updating ASAP! hoping the seeds arrive soon

nice that does look pretty fizzy damn! hahaha I love fizzy drinks, looks like it would be a great drink for a smoke sesh, would really quench your thirst Makes me wish I had as much patience as you to make it myself

musiclover420 said:

I always get giddy waiting for stuff in the mail I check it daily usually until it arrives.

Ginger ale is amazing for a smoke sesh, I love kombucha and other cultured beverages too. It is pretty damn easy too do really, took me like 5 days to get my cultures started from scatch using nothing but ginger filtered water and sugar plus yeast from the air. 5 days of letting it sit in a partly closed jar it was starting to bubble. Around a week and I made my first bottles, I usually let them bottle for 2-3 days depending on how quick they get fizzy. Have had some taste like soda and some like wine, some were like champagne fizzy

Surprised I have not blown up and bottles yet, I have been on a break from brewing though since I'm house sitting.

Fizzy drinks are the shit, I used to drink a ton of soda but the high sugar content is sketch. Cultured beverages are like natural healthy soda

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Hahaha i know the feeling! So releaved when it finally arrives

It does sound easy hey but still, dont go blowing up anything just for a beveridge, safety first!