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LSA, 5-HO-DMT (Bufotenine), Datura Stramonium(*?) seeds - DOSES TEST
    #22348393 - 10/08/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

**** Instead of using Datura Stramonium at this current time, I'll be using Essential Lemon Oil to stop the nausea created by the seeds. What I know so far apon testing - LEMON ESSENTIAL OIL BLOCKS YOPO NAUSEA! (@ 3 seeds with 5 drops, then 2 drops about an hour after ingestion, and another 2 about an hour & 20 in 00 capsules. I purcahsed mine online but most health shops should have them ,they are cheap too !

okkkay this is my first post here on Shroomery! And I thought I'd make it meaningful, at least to some of you. This post is mainly for people interested in the use of these seeds, in a POSITIVE manner, the reason why I say this is because Datura Strammonium is a known deliriant and fatal doses have been known to occur/ other negative side effects such as delirum. Before we delve further into my plans, I'll let it be known that the Datura is being used not for the high/effects it has been known to produce, but to boost the LSA, and Bufotenine effects itself & to stop onset of nausea. The Datura will be used in doses of 1 & 1 only due to the nature of these seeds.

(I'll be using HBWR Hawaiian Strain seeds & YOPO (Anadenanthera. peregrina) seeds)

The reason why I thought I'd make this thread, is because I feel like it's my responsibility to show what effects can occur from these mixtures - because there's not a lot of reliable sources out there when it comes to these mixtures, regarding doses, experience, and whether it's safe to even add the low dose datura at all for potential purposes and due to my curiosity I thought I'd write down my experiences here on this thread so others will have something to go off, so they don't make a stupid mistake others have made. Keep in mind, I've purchased all these seeds off Ebay & the Datura & HBWR have yet to come, just made this thread before hand for the saving of time.

KEEP IN MIND - I've never used D. Strammonium seeds before and when they arrive will be trying ONE an hour before smoking cannabis, to see what effects that induces before moving on. I've tripped HBWR numerous times to succesion, however with nausea along for at least half the trips I had, the datura seeds are presented to combat that, I've used yopo snuff a few times but had small amounts (i.e - enough to get high but no visuals) and am scared to trip a proper amount, due to the nausea & vomiting you get from that as well which is also why I'm looking at the use of Datura - - - Low doses of Datura do not PRODUCE delirium, for majority of people at least I don't recommend the use of datura and this post was made for harm minimization only - if my low dose tests of datura produces ANY negative effects it will be made known here. If you think my actions are stupid, I'm just looking for natural ways to get a good high, as opposed to MDMA and others, DMT itself & LSD is kind of out of the equation for me as it's either hard to come by or pricey - That doesn't mean I'm unfamiliar to them however.

MY FIRST TEST - (contained in a cap)
2-3 HBWR Seeds
1 Yopo Seeds
1 Datura Seed*
// This is mainly to test the potency between the mixing of the drugs.

SECOND TEST - (contained in a cap)
4 HBWR Seeds
2 YOPO Seed
lemon essential oil
// I will continue on to this test if the first one was a success, not really a point increasing the content if it's only going to produce more negative effects

THIRD TEST - (cap)*
7 HBWR Seeds
lemon essential oil
// I personally enjoyed the HBWR trips I took, even with the nausea however the nausea does decrease the value of the trip.. That's why I'm testing the datura with it to stop the negative aspects

FORTH TEST - (cap)*
4 Yopo Seeds
lemon essential oil
// Mostly excited to try this out as 1 / 2 seeds of yopo for me does great things, my prep is the normal with calcium bicarbonate too.

(added) 4.5 TEST - (cap)
3 Yopo Seeds
5/2 drops lemon essential oil
// tried this october 15th 2015 - check comments for report (page 1)


So what do you think? Am I wasting my time, or just setting my self up for possible insanity?

If anyone also has any suggestions/questions/anything be sure to add below =)

**Will be doing the tests WHEN all the requirements needed are within my reach.. maybe in a few weeks and will be posted here. - - Sorry if this breaks any rules, havent seen a post like this and I believe it may be helpful

*** Sorry if i missed anything out! quite high at the time of writing this (love weed :tongue2:

-UPDATE (oct 9th 2015) // not sure about adding the datura at all now... reason why is because of all the nightmare stories about it. If I don't actually end up using the datura seeds, I'll be sure to continue the trips & write a report with each & add links regarding the effects of Datura.

-UPDATE (oct 15th 2015) // I decided I'd try 3 yopo seeds in a cap as opposed to the other dosage tests i was going to do.


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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: 100mbps]
    #22348403 - 10/08/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

IME moonflower seeds don't produce as strong of effects as fresh leaves. I have personally eaten 6 with no noted effects except a slight dry mouth.

That being said I spent the night in the hospital when I was 16 because I ingested a decent portion of moonflower leaves and was under the impression it was 1980 for about 12 hours. This happened this decade and I wasn't alive in 1980.

Also datura is a dirty word. It's moonflower!! :crankey:

Be safe!!


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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: 100mbps]
    #22348406 - 10/08/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have considered this minus the bufo, I have never dabbled with datura or its relatives at all yet though.

One thing to consider is the seed potency probably varies a ton, so a standardized extract could be smart if done right. I meant datura mainly but this is true for all 3 somewhat I am sure. Maybe start with them separately too just to be safe and see how they mix individually. Starting very low like you plan too will make it more safe anyways but getting an idea for how they mix separately could be helpful to your experiment.

Things like ginger can work great for nausea too, I love some nice ginger tea regardless.


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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: musiclover420]
    #22348412 - 10/08/15 01:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:highasfuck:

:popcorn:


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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: Salomon]
    #22348417 - 10/08/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Salomon said:
:highasfuck:

:popcorn:




I KNEW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A MOONFLOWER!!


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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: musiclover420]
    #22348551 - 10/08/15 03:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

The Moose said:
IME moonflower seeds don't produce as strong of effects as fresh leaves. I have personally eaten 6 with no noted effects except a slight dry mouth.

That being said I spent the night in the hospital when I was 16 because I ingested a decent portion of moonflower leaves and was under the impression it was 1980 for about 12 hours. This happened this decade and I wasn't alive in 1980.

Also datura is a dirty word. It's moonflower!! :crankey:

Be safe!!



hahaha I'll have to keep it in mind not to call it datura :P and I only have access to Seeds and wouldn't have the time to grow any plants at this frame in time, plus I'm more happy to ingest a low dose of seeds as opposed to the flowers because to me it seems easier just to work with, thats just me though

Sorry to hear about that glad that you made it through though :cool: Would be a crazy experience thinking about about it though!

And thankyou safety is the main precaution here =)

Quote:

musiclover420 said:
I have considered this minus the bufo, I have never dabbled with datura or its relatives at all yet though.

One thing to consider is the seed potency probably varies a ton, so a standardized extract could be smart if done right. I meant datura mainly but this is true for all 3 somewhat I am sure. Maybe start with them separately too just to be safe and see how they mix individually. Starting very low like you plan too will make it more safe anyways but getting an idea for how they mix separately could be helpful to your experiment.

Things like ginger can work great for nausea too, I love some nice ginger tea regardless.



Yeah that's what I have thought about the potency, and I've read only good things about the seeds in low doses, only 1 or 2 negatives and that was comments on what they've heard. Also, I've read that the bad stuff in the seeds are ultimately only psychoactive at higher doses, due to the small amount contained in each seed. I can't think of the name's as my memory isn't the best. And would you recommend trying the datura on its own, as opposed to trying it with cannabis to see the effects it has on that? Also I would most likely have little to no resources to do an extract, but I'm sure the seeds will do fine hopefully

I've heard mixed results with the ginger, mainly on the positive side though. If I've got ginger at the time of ingestion & remember - I'll be sure to use abit. Never heard of a tea with it though, that's probably because I don't drink normal tea either :tongue:


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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: 100mbps]
    #22348569 - 10/08/15 03:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't see any issues with trying it with cannabis, if you smoke regularly you still should notice any abnormalities from the datura.

Pretty sure they would synergize well if anything as long as you didn't overdo the datura.

Extracting is definitely not necessary just though I would throw that out there as I remember seeing a shroomery recipe for an LSA datura combo extract that involved making a standardized datura extract to divide into microdoses to mix with the LSA extract. Seemed like one of the safer ways to experiment with it to me but I tend to be overcautious with some of the more intense plants.

What do you mean mixed results about ginger? Like combining it with things? Ginger tea is great becouse it is really relaxing and mellow as well as healthy, add a little sweetener and lemon juice and your taste buds and body will thank you. It doesn't take much ginger at all either as it is some potent stuff. I like to make super strong ginger tea to mix with juice which is delicious :drooling: can do wonders for the stomach too.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: musiclover420]
    #22348615 - 10/08/15 04:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

musiclover420 said:
I don't see any issues with trying it with cannabis, if you smoke regularly you still should notice any abnormalities from the datura.

Pretty sure they would synergize well if anything as long as you didn't overdo the datura.

Extracting is definitely not necessary just though I would throw that out there as I remember seeing a shroomery recipe for an LSA datura combo extract that involved making a standardized datura extract to divide into microdoses to mix with the LSA extract. Seemed like one of the safer ways to experiment with it to me but I tend to be overcautious with some of the more intense plants.

What do you mean mixed results about ginger? Like combining it with things? Ginger tea is great becouse it is really relaxing and mellow as well as healthy, add a little sweetener and lemon juice and your taste buds and body will thank you. It doesn't take much ginger at all either as it is some potent stuff. I like to make super strong ginger tea to mix with juice which is delicious :drooling: can do wonders for the stomach too.



Ill definetaley be posting here the effects i notice when combining the 2 :smile:

It's all sweet man you can never be too cautious anyway :P especially with your own health, but I do agree it would be a more safer way of ingestion no doubt.

I haven't really heard much about the ginger tea but I'm sure it would be good for you and that does sound intriguing as well as pleasant! might look into it, and I meant that I've heard mixed results with using it to eliminate nausea for HBWR but I should of been more straight foward, my bad :stoned:


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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: 100mbps]
    #22348632 - 10/08/15 04:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sweet, I will be looking forward to an update!

Yeah that is how I view it too, I have learned the hard way myself and witnessed and heard many horror stories as well, that really teaches you :wink:

I love ginger myself but I also love tea and am trying to be healthier, plus I get the occasional stomach issues so its nice to have an herbal remedy on hand.

Ginger is definitely no miracle cure, though it can help a ton. HBWR and relatives can also cause pretty sever nausea in some people it seems :shrug:

No problem I just wanted to clarify :thumbup:

Check out this home brewed bottle of ginger ale:

Super easy to make and super delicious, as you can see it can get pretty damn fizzy too! Just throwing that out there :stoned:


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: musiclover420]
    #22348679 - 10/08/15 04:46 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Sweet, I will be looking forward to an update!

Yeah that is how I view it too, I have learned the hard way myself and witnessed and heard many horror stories as well, that really teaches you :wink:

I love ginger myself but I also love tea and am trying to be healthier, plus I get the occasional stomach issues so its nice to have an herbal remedy on hand.

Ginger is definitely no miracle cure, though it can help a ton. HBWR and relatives can also cause pretty sever nausea in some people it seems :shrug:

No problem I just wanted to clarify :thumbup:

Check out this home brewed bottle of ginger ale:

Super easy to make and super delicious, as you can see it can get pretty damn fizzy too! Just throwing that out there :stoned:



Will be updating ASAP! hoping the seeds arrive soon :crazy:

nice that does look pretty fizzy damn! hahaha I love fizzy drinks, looks like it would be a great drink for a smoke sesh, would really quench your thirst :cool: Makes me wish I had as much patience as you to make it myself :tongue:


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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: 100mbps]
    #22348695 - 10/08/15 04:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I always get giddy waiting for stuff in the mail :lol: I check it daily usually until it arrives.

Ginger ale is amazing for a smoke sesh, I love kombucha and other cultured beverages too. It is pretty damn easy too do really, took me like 5 days to get my cultures started from scatch using nothing but ginger filtered water and sugar plus yeast from the air. 5 days of letting it sit in a partly closed jar it was starting to bubble. Around a week and I made my first bottles, I usually let them bottle for 2-3 days depending on how quick they get fizzy. Have had some taste like soda and some like wine, some were like champagne fizzy :eek:

Surprised I have not blown up and bottles yet, I have been on a break from brewing though since I'm house sitting.

Fizzy drinks are the shit, I used to drink a ton of soda but the high sugar content is sketch. Cultured beverages are like natural healthy soda :heart:


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: musiclover420]
    #22348933 - 10/08/15 07:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

musiclover420 said:
I always get giddy waiting for stuff in the mail :lol: I check it daily usually until it arrives.

Ginger ale is amazing for a smoke sesh, I love kombucha and other cultured beverages too. It is pretty damn easy too do really, took me like 5 days to get my cultures started from scatch using nothing but ginger filtered water and sugar plus yeast from the air. 5 days of letting it sit in a partly closed jar it was starting to bubble. Around a week and I made my first bottles, I usually let them bottle for 2-3 days depending on how quick they get fizzy. Have had some taste like soda and some like wine, some were like champagne fizzy :eek:

Surprised I have not blown up and bottles yet, I have been on a break from brewing though since I'm house sitting.

Fizzy drinks are the shit, I used to drink a ton of soda but the high sugar content is sketch. Cultured beverages are like natural healthy soda :heart:



Hahaha i know the feeling! So releaved when it finally arrives :cool:

It does sound easy hey but still, dont go blowing up anything just for a beveridge, safety first!


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Re: LSA, 5-HO-DMT, D. stramonium seeds - DOSES TEST [Re: 100mbps]
    #22377794 - 10/14/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

***|| TEST 4.5 ||**** (3 Yopo seeds, 5/2 drops LEOil)
So probably around 2 hours ago i decided it was time to finally take my yopo capsule, along side some lemon essential oil to stop nausea. At first I had no idea whether the lemon oil worked or not, i was taking a shot in the dark whether it would work or not and it DOES! ESSENTIAL LEMON OIL STOPS YOPO NAUSEA

- PREP \\
3 or 4 days ago i made a yopo snuff prep, with calcium bi-carbonate & 3 Anadenanthera. peregrina seeds, with the bicarbonate i added about not even a third of the yopo snuffs weight to it (if that confuses you i mean i added less bicarbonate then there was yopo)

- REPORT \\
1:15 A.M - put 5 drops essential lemon oil in a cap with a tiny bit of sunflower oil to dilute, litterally a tiny bit.

1:20 A.M - already feel something from the LEOil, which i'm not sure if it has added/dissolved the effects of the trip.. id be betting it added a bit to it.

1:30 A.M - I drop the cap, containing yopo snuff (3 seeds, and about a third of the yopos weight with bi carbonate

1:35 A.M - ALREADY feeling something.. it'd weird, can't explain it but I felt heaps warm, and looking on YouTube on my phone it made everything look very outlined and textured, no hallucinations present though.

1:45 A.M - Time kinda loses me, or I lose time around this point because I my memory gets cloudy around here but I'm feeling heaps warm, very euphoric, and a good sense of wellbeing. my pupils did not dilate at all too funnily enough, im betting they may with a larger dose though.

2:00 A.M - I'd bet to say it's kicked in fully by now, and I actually feel great, I smoke a bowl around here too and it hit me 10x more then regular, which i'm not complaining about.

2:30 A.M - I'm really fucking high at this point, and I'm playing black ops 2, I feel like im going alot better then I do, but I feel i was playing more strategically then I normally do.

2:35 / 2:40 A.M - I begin to feel a slight stomach discomfort which I would associate with nausea, only the slightest bit though but I felt it may get stronger so i sat up and went near my bucket to be safe, sat there for around 5 seconds feeling abit weird before I added 2 or so more drops of the Lemon Essential Oil into a 00 gel cap and have that.. almost immediately after ingesting the stomach discomfort had gone! also at one point around this time i stretched, and my whole upper body felt amazing for the duration of it, best i can explain it

2:45 A.M - I think i just chill out for abit and listen to music

3:00 A.M - Decided I'd add notes about my experience to shroomery so I came here and yeah it's currently now 3:17 AM and im still quite high:mushroom2: I had around 2 bowls through out the comeup/beginning, however ill be having another soon but yeah i'd definately recommend this im feeling great right now, when I wake up I'll add an update too :smile:


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