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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: Turtletotem]
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zappaisgod said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/world/middleeast/isis-suspected-of-chemical-attack-in-syria.html

It isn't Assad.  President Stupid backed the wrong assholes


Obama opposed aiding the rebels. It was McCain and his buddies that were pushing to give them weapons.


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: chopstick]
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By the way, ISIS never would have risen to power if it weren't for these factors:

-Power Vacuum in Iraq due to the previous occupations
-Civil War in Syria started by outside actors
-Billions of dollars in funding and Modern Armaments provided by Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, Jordan
-Constant flows of fresh foreign recruits from the above mentioned countries

Turkey allows ISIS forces to use their border freely without restriction.

Most of ISIS forces operating in syria are foreigners. They are a proxy army being operated by Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel.

Blaming islam for ISIS is stupid. They never would have gotten off the ground if not for the overt Support of Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey, who provided Billions of $ in funding, logistics, training, and modern weaponry, all in  a vain attempt to overthrow Assad.

If the outside states stopped supporting ISIS they would be done in a week and the Takfiri breed of terrorism would be dead before sundown

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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: koods]
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The US tends to back assholes often.  We backed right wing death squads in nicaragua for fear of communism.  We backed Osama binladin and the mujahadeen to fight the soviets in afghanistan.  Really short sighted thinking on american foreign policy.  This is why no one wants to touch IS with a 10 foot pole and the likely cause of the latest iran deal was to bribe them into fighting IS for us.  We have been secretly backing the kurds to fight IS but we haven't given them enough to do the job proper for fear they might turn against us in the future too.


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: koods]
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ORLY? 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/02/us-usa-syria-obama-order-idUSBRE8701OK20120802

Can you stop sucking Obama cock long enough to read a fucking newspaper?


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: zappaisgod]
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I didn't know the backing of the rebels some who have now joined IS was a secret.  The situation over there is just a fucking disaster.


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: chopstick]
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The power vacume was a bad thing, but the underlying culture still very much supports what Isis are doing and stand for. We didn't crate Isis


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: specialpeopleclub]
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specialpeopleclub said:
The power vacume was a bad thing, but the underlying culture still very much supports what Isis are doing and stand for. We didn't crate Isis


No but saudi arabia has had a big part is fueling the fire.  If we weren't nursing oil from the tit of SA we would have been in there carpet bombing the fuck outta them years ago.  If pakistan didn't have nukes we would have been doing more then drone strikes in the tribal regions too.  These countries are at least turning a blind eye to the islamist problem or outright supporting the cause.  The US has their hands tied on dealing with those two major problems.


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: specialpeopleclub]
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specialpeopleclub said:
The power vacume was a bad thing, but the underlying culture still very much supports what Isis are doing and stand for. We didn't crate Isis


It wasn't a singular source that created them. All groups are self made by their current conditions.

ISIS is a reaction to the current state of affairs. It's a shadow of what's to come to the world once resources start going bottom up.

I see a lot of users here who want to distance themselves and "eliminate" the problem.

That's not how it works.


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: MoxyOx]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
The US tends to back assholes often.  We backed right wing death squads in nicaragua for fear of communism.  We backed Osama binladin and the mujahadeen to fight the soviets in afghanistan.  Really short sighted thinking on american foreign policy.  This is why no one wants to touch IS with a 10 foot pole and the likely cause of the latest iran deal was to bribe them into fighting IS for us.


We did not back Osama bin Laden.  We did back the mujaheeddin.  The Sandanistas were no less scummy than the opposition in Nicaragua.


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: zappaisgod]
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Deposing Khaddafi was one of the stupidest moves ever.


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: zappaisgod]
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Gaddafi was trying to go back to the gold standard and would have challenged US Dollar hegemony in all of Africa. For this "crime" he had to be killed. Now Libya is a terrorist infested shithole. But they aren't challenging IMF or US Dollar hegemony so it's all good.

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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Cognitive_Shift said:
The US tends to back assholes often.  We backed right wing death squads in nicaragua for fear of communism.  We backed Osama binladin and the mujahadeen to fight the soviets in afghanistan.  Really short sighted thinking on american foreign policy.  This is why no one wants to touch IS with a 10 foot pole and the likely cause of the latest iran deal was to bribe them into fighting IS for us.


We did not back Osama bin Laden.  We did back the mujaheeddin.  The Sandanistas were no less scummy than the opposition in Nicaragua.


Both of those decisions were terrible decisions.


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: chopstick]
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The invasion of Libya was at the behest of the French who do not give a fuck about the dollar.  The view from an anus is probably not all that panaromic


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: chopstick]
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By the way, Putin said this recently to Turkey's ambassador:

Putin to Turkish Envoy: Tell Your Dictator President He Can Go to Hell along with his ISIL Terrorists

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940513001210

TEHRAN (FNA)- Russian President Vladimir Putin broke the accepted diplomatic protocols and personally summoned Turkish Ambassador to Moscow Ümit Yardim, and warned him that the Russian Federation shall sever the diplomatic relations immediately unless Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan stops supporting ISIL rebels in Syria, where Russia holds its last navy base in the Mediterranean sea.

"..then tell your dictator president he can go to hell along with his ISIL terrorist and I shall make Syria to nothing but a 'Big Stalingrad', for Erdoğan and his Saudi allies are no vicious than Adolf Hitler," replied Vladimir Putin in the 2-hour closed door meeting with Turkish emissary.

"How hypocrite is your president as he advocates democracy and lambasts the military coup d'état in Egypt," added Putin, "And he simultaneously condones all terrorist activities aimed to overthrow Syrian president."


Russia's support of Syria has been vital to both-

A) Keeping the US/NATO from bombing Assad in support of ISIS
B) Supplying the Syrian Army with vital weaponry and munitions to stave off the ISIS hordes

Which pretty much guarantees that Damascus will not fall anytime soon.

Keep on Keepin' it real Putin :cool:

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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
The invasion of Libya was at the behest of the French who do not give a fuck about the dollar.  The view from an anus is probably not all that panaromic


Fuck the french. Hollande is a retarded US puppet

I can guarantee if Gaddafi had caved to US economic demands and allowed the West to rape his country economically, there would have been no invasion or bombing. But instead he tried to stand up for his people and for his continent. For this he was killed.

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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: chopstick]
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According to assorted vociferous nitwits everybody is a US puppet.  What US economic demands?


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
According to assorted vociferous nitwits everybody is a US puppet.  What US economic demands?


If you're receiving multibillion dollars in aid from the US they can extort you to make all kinds of decisions you wouldn't normally make:shrug:


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
zappaisgod said:
According to assorted vociferous nitwits everybody is a US puppet.  What US economic demands?


If you're receiving multibillion dollars in aid from the US they can extort you to make all kinds of decisions you wouldn't normally make:shrug:


If we are giving them billions how are we economically raping them?


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: zappaisgod]
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I never said anything about economically raping anyone:confused:


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Re: Islamic barbarians killing 30 for Sodomy [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
ORLY? 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/02/us-usa-syria-obama-order-idUSBRE8701OK20120802

Can you stop sucking Obama cock long enough to read a fucking newspaper?


Can you read?

Quote:
Some U.S. lawmakers, such as Republican Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham, have criticized Obama for moving too slowly to assist the rebels and have suggested the U.S. government become directly involved in arming Assad's opponent



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