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 Merkin
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 Do you guys extract your own salvia D? 
#2200385 - 12/25/03 12:04 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm about to buy a live sally d plant, its about 20cm in height, just wondering if its it worth buying one when talking about its growth rate?
How hard is it to extract it succesfully for smoking?
What methods and techniques have worked the best for you?
extraction links etc are welcome 
thanks
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 Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2200419 - 12/25/03 12:37 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its really easy to extract salvia, and make a 10x extract ,for example...youd need 99% isopropyl alcohol, 10g of salvia leaves...You soak the leaves in like 200 ml of alcohol in some airtight jar. Shake once in a while , for 3 days...Then filter , so that theres no plant material in the green alcohol resulting...
Pour the liquid in some glass cooking dish, and wait (in a well ventiled room) for your salvinorin-rich alcohol to evaporate until theres not much left, enough to soak 1 gram of leaves...Now take a gram of plain salvia leaves , and mix it throughly with the green liquid, so that theres no more or almost no alcohol in dish...Now you really have to let dry long enough. There must be no smell whatsoever of alcohol, cuz isopropyl can make ya go blind and stuff...There you have a gram of potent 10x extract! really potent  Simple eh?
I don't really know how a single plant would yield...but id guess enough to make at least a gram of 10x...
Edited by Grapefruity (12/25/03 12:47 AM)
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Merkin
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2200455 - 12/25/03 01:06 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cool, sounds even more simple
But, is it not a good idea to have just one plant? I think it's possible to grow more plants from one. how fast do they grow?
thanks
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2200671 - 12/25/03 04:01 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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indeed, making salvia extracts is easy.
They grow really fast!! you can easily make lots of cuttings from that one, just let it grow a little bit first. good luck
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Merkin
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2200675 - 12/25/03 04:13 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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There must be no smell whatsoever of alcohol, cuz isopropyl can make ya go blind and stuff...
hmm this sounds dangerous, is there still a possibility of getting injured even though there is no smell anymore? what are the odds 
and thanks Stefan, that's what I like to hear :D
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2200738 - 12/25/03 06:41 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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After you think it's really dry just put it for a while in an oven on low heat to make sure all alcohols are evaporated..
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2200748 - 12/25/03 07:08 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Salvia grows VERY fast indeed. I got a plant about 1 foot tall in early Spring, by the end of Summer it was 5 feet tall (growing outside in England) and I had given some cuttings to friends, I then chopped it into more cuttings, gave a few more away leaving me with eight, each about a foot tall, at the moment I have them inside under flourescent bulbs, and have started taking more cuttings... I will soon have a forest!!
So you might not get much yield in the first year (I got about an ounce, dry) but the next year you can harvest a LOT! I would estimate that your number of plants/yield could be multiplied 20 times each year.
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2200841 - 12/25/03 10:46 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I wouldnt be that worried. Alcohols are pretty safe. They evaporate really quickly, Much better than water does.
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Merkin
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2201213 - 12/25/03 06:18 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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sweeet as, but what do you really mean by "cutting"? Can the plant start growing by planting a part of it?, or do you have to cut a piece of its root when it gets larger?:D
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
#2201225 - 12/25/03 06:54 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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No worry at all necessary. Isopropyl, even if you drink it, will mainly just make you sick and give you rreally bad gas and cramps etc...I knew someone who did tihs before. After it dries you won't be able to smell it, and if there was a really small bit left when you smoked it, it would be no more harmful than actually smelling the alcohol out of the bottle.
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2201615 - 12/26/03 01:42 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Merkaba said:
sweeet as, but what do you really mean by "cutting"? Can the plant start growing by planting a part of it?, or do you have to cut a piece of its root when it gets larger?:D
http://www.meneercactus.nl/mc/salviacuttings/index.html
check that site out, a good "how to make salvia cuttigns" guide with pics.
you can also use pottign soil or just tap water to root them.
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2201725 - 12/26/03 04:54 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks like a good site. thanks !
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2202408 - 12/26/03 03:44 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm concernced about these white flies I've been hearing about. What should be done(what is recommended) to deter them from coming or any other parisites-pestisides (sp?:P)
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2202444 - 12/26/03 04:05 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not sure you can prevent them from coming, but examine your plants each day, and at the first sign of nasty creepy-crawlies get sprayin' with your favourite organophosphate. Or use a hot pepper spray or whatever if you don't want to use chems. Obviously if you do use chems, don't use the plant for a while afterwards...
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: stefan]
#2204549 - 12/27/03 07:03 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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While I could go get some everclear pretty easily, I already have some 91% isoprop... that's fine, right?
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
#2205385 - 12/28/03 08:00 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've used 91% for 2 extractions, and they both turned out super strong and successful.
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HarveyWalbanger
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: necronomicon]
#2205864 - 12/28/03 03:08 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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How long did the evaporation take? I have people leaving town soon, Can I boil it down a little to speed it up, or is that a bad idea? I have a double boiler and a pressure cooker....?
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
#2206383 - 12/28/03 08:44 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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double boiler is usualy my method or using a crock pot is often used too..
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: Merkin]
#2207018 - 12/29/03 04:00 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used to make plenty of salvia d extractions, with simple household items (distilled water, acetone).
They work out great.
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Re: Do you guys extract your own salvia D? [Re: neuro]
#2207477 - 12/29/03 10:37 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Excellent, I've got both those. I'm not going to burn my house down am I? :P I'm thinking about cutting the soak down to 2 1/2 days and boiling it off that night... any idea how long it takes to boil off a bottle of isoprop on a double boiler or a crockpot or in open air? I'm doing like a 24g extraction onto 2gs.... Sorry, I'm going to finish the extraction tomorrow, and I gotta make sure I got the whole procedure down so I can think about other things 
Edited by HarveyWalbanger (12/29/03 10:40 AM)
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