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criticize my ultra ghetto extraction
    #2158657 - 12/04/03 05:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

ok here goes my very poorly done extraction.

took 2 spent cakes from my grow, smashed them up in a pyrex bowl into the littlest chunks that i could with my hands, covered with about 12 ounces of 91% isopropyl alcohol and then covered the container air tight. shook it really really violently hard apporxamatly 10 times a day for 4 days. poured the whole mess slowly through an isopropyl soaked coffee filter into a pyrex pie dish, and squeezed as much extra liquid out of the chunks of myc that i could. now the dish is sitting in front of a fan, to speed up the evaporation of the isopropyl.

i realize this is a very bastardized version of most extractions out there, but i would have just thrown out the cakes anyways as my grow is done.

total cost of supplies was under $5: 59 cents for a funnel, $1.29 for 150 coffee filters (of which i used 4) and $1.29 for the bottle of isopropyl.

ok...have at it, whatd i do wrong, how could i do it better with minimal effort and supplies. and dont say double boil it, because the last thing i need is to overheat the isopropyl (nice low flash point) and blow myself up. i figured isopropyl would be a good choice, because its been proven to extract the goods, and it is the most easily obtainable of any extraction viable liquids (as opposed to methanol or pure ethanol).

ill let ya'll know how much goods i get from this also as soon as the iso. evaporates away.

~JSlice~


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: angryjslice]
    #2158775 - 12/04/03 06:32 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

mmm i do it that way too , im pretty lazy , the only thing is that i jsut do the alcohol procedure a couple more times


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: Callampin]
    #2158997 - 12/04/03 07:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Can u go any further into this ? If there is anymore


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: Callampin]
    #2159000 - 12/04/03 07:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Just put it on the stove.... As long as its electric and you keep it at min - level 2 nothing should go wrong. Just put a fan by wherever you're boiling it to blow the fumes around.


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: PIMPtheSYSTEM]
    #2159029 - 12/04/03 08:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

PIMPtheSYSTEM said:
Can u go any further into this ? If there is anymore 




what more do you want to know.  its called ghetto for a reason  :cool:

steps:
1)soak used myc chunks in a covered bowl w/ isopropyl alchol for 4 days, shaking occasionally
2)pour through coffee filter into glass dish
3)fan dry
4)scrape up residue


thats all there really is to it.  my stuff is about 80% evaporated now, and i can see nice swirls of material on the bottom, looks like an amberish color. should be done in 2 hours tops.  iso evaporates fast.

~JSlice~


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: angryjslice]
    #2159068 - 12/04/03 08:26 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

So what are you planning on doing with this extraction? Do you eat it, smoke it, what?? I'm guessing you eat it. Lets hope its potent!


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: LateForTheFuture]
    #2159105 - 12/04/03 08:39 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

eat it, i am estimating by total nonsense pull numbers out of my ass math that i will get around 2-3 hits per jar. so i should have probly around 5 doses of the extract. so ill eat 1/5th of it and see what happens. hehe

gotta experiment on myself so that others will know the general dosage to take.

there is much controversy over smoking psylo's. some say it gets destroyed, some say its alright...i dunno, if ive got some to spare maybe ill give it a whirl.

~JSlice~


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: angryjslice]
    #2159115 - 12/04/03 08:41 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

oh also...to Pimpthesystem...callampin is refering to putting more isopropyl alcohol on the myc after you pour the initial extraction off, so that you extract any of the remainders.

~JSlice~


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: angryjslice]
    #2159119 - 12/04/03 08:42 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Interesting. Good luck :laugh:


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: angryjslice]
    #2159153 - 12/04/03 08:52 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Using IsoProp is gona give you some nasty and somewhat toxic product.


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: RockGut]
    #2159194 - 12/04/03 09:04 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

howso? do you have anything to back that up?

http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/18535.html

<b>searcher</b> shows the extraction being done with isopropyl alcohol. although his is 99% and mine is 91%, that just means i have more water, water has also been shown to work in extracting the goods, its just not very efficient.

give me an explanation as to why i will get a toxic product and i might consider believing that.

~JSlice~


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: angryjslice]
    #2159242 - 12/04/03 09:25 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It should work, but, IME, potency differs in different mycelium. The older the mycelium the more psilocybin.

The only thing I would change is to dry out the mycelium first, and like calla said -- do like two or three extractions on the same fungal material -- your yeilds will be better.

I don't know if two cakes will get you the trip you want, though. Also -- eat it ASAP as the alkaloids can break down.

The alcohol is quick to evaporate, but you'll be left with water at the end which will take a lot longer to evap.

Cheers!

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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: angryjslice]
    #2159264 - 12/04/03 09:30 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I'm doing this with 4 spent cakes right now, I crumbled and fan dried them overnight and I'm now letting them soak in 750mL methanol, then evaporating it and see whats left. We have to compare and see which way is better. I'll post my results in this thread but I just started the methanol soak about an hour ago, so it will be a couple days.


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: John]
    #2159378 - 12/04/03 09:59 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i imagine methanol will provide much better results. im not lookin for a ton though, just looking for anything at all really.

yeh i did plan on drying the myclium first but, then i thought that the water couldnt make to much of a difference because you can extract with water.  ahh well, live and learn right hehe.  you are right about the last part of drying taking the longest micro, good thing i learned patience through colonizing jars!

also..micro, the trip im looking for is probly equivalent to 1 gram dried mushrooms.  i am tired of having heavy duty psychedlic shit to ponder.  i was thinking of using this in the mornings just to give my day that extra little sparkle :grin:

thanks for all the input, next time around ill dry the myc out real well before i start.

micro:  in my search for the perfect way to get crystal precipitates of the psylo's i found that laziness is much easier, even though the product isnt what i dream of it being.  thanks for all your help.

~JSlice~

edit: hey a good friend of mine plans on doing this extraction with azure myc.  i know azures have higher content in fruit bodies as compared to regular cubensis, anyone have any idea if they have higher content in the myc as well?


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: angryjslice]
    #2159946 - 12/05/03 01:21 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I always thought isopropyl alcohol brokedown the psillyness, rendering it useless. Dip a fresh cube in iso and set it aside. Tell me what you see in the morning.


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: angryjslice]
    #2160254 - 12/05/03 03:03 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Azurescens mycelium seems to be about 1/3 more potent than cubensis mycelium. It may be qualitatively better as well.


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: angryjslice]
    #2160626 - 12/05/03 07:33 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Iso has sugars and wood resins wich remain behind when evaporated.
This is something a retired meth cook might know.....


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: RockGut]
    #2160686 - 12/05/03 08:36 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

hhehe, well i dont know where you buy your isopropyl alcohol, but mine is 91% isopropyl alcohol, 9% water. (0% sugar, 0% wood resin)...upon leaving a drop of iso on a peice of glass to evaporate, it was found that there was no residue left over whatsoever. conclusion: iso has no residues that i dont want.

fear not! iso works good! i should have dried out my myc. before this though. the final product i got looks quit similar to the tarry product got through searchers distilled water extraction. total yeild i cant weigh just yet but its the size of a marble, and a little extra. sealed in airtight celophane stored in the dark at room temperature.

things for next time:
1) be more carfull when filtering
2) use 2 coffee filters instead of 1 (dumb me)
3) possibly let the final product dry longer before scraping
4) use dry myc. instead of fresh myc.


gonna taste it soon, ill let ya'll know

~JSlice~


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Re: criticize my ultra ghetto extraction [Re: angryjslice]
    #2160710 - 12/05/03 09:09 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Could I do this with dried mush and get a srtong extraction?


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    #2160715 - 12/05/03 09:16 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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