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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: Stonehenge]
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They want to join NATO and support Western ideals.  The thugs in the east support thugs in Russia.


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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: zappaisgod]
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Seems like the Republicans in congress have their sights firmly settled on war with Iran come 2017 or so I am right? It basically is like a game of risk, cant let the russkies or the persians become to strong in the area, lest they offer some kind of threat to our many military bases and economic interests. I'll be watching in my peaceful 1st world nation, eating pop corn thank you very much


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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: Unifloo]
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No.  They just want to ramp up the sanctions until their entire economy is crippled.


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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
They want to join NATO and support Western ideals.  The thugs in the east support thugs in Russia.


Why are our thugs more moral than their thugs? Whats wrong with just leaving well enough alone? I see no reason why we had to overthrow a democratically elected govt just because it didn't see things our way. Now the people have very little confidence in the puppet govt and they seem unable to run anything, certainly can't fight very well. Giving them weapons is throwing good money after bad.


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: Stonehenge]
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How do people feel about Crimea and the extreme east of the Ukraine anyways? Seems like there are a shit load of ethnic russians who live there, the crimea tried to separate from Russia back in the 90's


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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: Unifloo]
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They voted to unite with Russia. Why don't we try a little minding our own business for a change instead of killing all those the parasites don't like? Maybe we should kill the parasites instead of Russians?


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
zappaisgod said:
They want to join NATO and support Western ideals.  The thugs in the east support thugs in Russia.


Why are our thugs more moral than their thugs? Whats wrong with just leaving well enough alone? I see no reason why we had to overthrow a democratically elected govt just because it didn't see things our way. Now the people have very little confidence in the puppet govt and they seem unable to run anything, certainly can't fight very well. Giving them weapons is throwing good money after bad.


Tell me again who invaded who.


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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
They voted to unite with Russia. Why don't we try a little minding our own business for a change instead of killing all those the parasites don't like? Maybe we should kill the parasites instead of Russians?


:lolsy:They voted

It's OK for Russia to invade the Ukraine but it isn't OK for Israel to conquer territory from a nation that attacked it and which doesn't want it back any way.


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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
They voted to unite with Russia. Why don't we try a little minding our own business for a change instead of killing all those the parasites don't like? Maybe we should kill the parasites instead of Russians?



That's a lie.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/05/05/putins-human-rights-council-accidentally-posts-real-crimean-election-results-only-15-voted-for-annexation/



http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/06/crimea-political-system/6135359/


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/14/crimean-referendum-illegal-international-law


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26475508


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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: Bridgeburner]
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The street polls seemed to say the public was in favor of joining Russia. Everyone has a conspiracy theory but why wouldn't ethnic Russians who felt discriminated against by the new govt want to join Russia?

zap
>It's OK for Russia to invade the Ukraine but it isn't OK for Israel to conquer territory from a nation that attacked it and which doesn't want it back any way.

More of your lies. Ukraine was part of Russia for a long long time. People voted to rejoin, you don't like the vote, tough cookies. When was the territory isreal stole ever part of isreal? Did the usa attack isreal? If not then why did they deliberately attack the uss liberty if not to eliminate witnesses that would expose their lies? With friends like that we have enemies. What is worse than a sworn enemy? A false friend, isreal for example, the state you pledge allegiance to.


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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
The street polls seemed to say the public was in favor of joining Russia. Everyone has a conspiracy theory but why wouldn't ethnic Russians who felt discriminated against by the new govt want to join Russia?

zap
>It's OK for Russia to invade the Ukraine but it isn't OK for Israel to conquer territory from a nation that attacked it and which doesn't want it back any way.

More of your lies. Ukraine was part of Russia for a long long time. People voted to rejoin, you don't like the vote, tough cookies. When was the territory isreal stole ever part of isreal? Did the usa attack isreal? If not then why did they deliberately attack the uss liberty if not to eliminate witnesses that would expose their lies? With friends like that we have enemies. What is worse than a sworn enemy? A false friend, isreal for example, the state you pledge allegiance to.


There was no vote.  It was a total scam.  The Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union.  So were a whole lot of other states.  Does that mean you support Russia's right to take them back too?  Your incontinence is showing.


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Re: Our troops being sent to a new war, this time in ukraine [Re: zappaisgod]
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>There was no vote.  It was a total scam.

Got any evidence of that beside conspiracy theories?

>The Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union.  So were a whole lot of other states.  Does that mean you support Russia's right to take them back too?

"too"?? I never said Russia had the right to take anything by force. Once again you flog the straw man. Same old zappa.


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