musiclover420 said:

Asante, as you are into spirituality, what is your take on Aya/ pharmauasca?

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musiclover420 said:

Sounds like you maybe took to much The two pharmauasca experiences I had lasted 5-8 hours. Though I am sure all the other stuff in the traditional brew played a role in that. Do you know what kind of brew you drank? That's weird, I have heard so many amazing spiritual aya stories.

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I don't know which brew we drank (my fiancé sourced the ingredients and made the ayahuasca himself).  All I know is that both my fiancé and I each drank our own massive bottle of horrible-tasting, brown-colored ayahuasca brew.  I will ask my fiancé later to tell me which version of ayahuasca brew we drank.

Unlike that ayahuasca experience with my fiancé (where neither of us had a religious / spiritual experience), smoked DMT was totally different (according to my fiancé, that is -- I, myself, haven't smoked DMT) and -- roughly 10 seconds after smoking 2 or 3 'hits' of the DMT -- my fiancé went from being incredibly anxious and quite worried about the following experience (based on the reports of many who smoked DMT and had somewhat -- if not entirely -- difficult to nightmarish experiences on smoked DMT) to being completely -- and entirely -- calm (and not anxious or nervous or anything negative whatsoever).  Also, his pulse and breathing changed in LITERALLY 10 SECONDS from an extremely-fast pulse and abnormally-fast breathing to a completely normal pulse and normal breathing. 

The reason that he attributed the unbelievably fast and sudden change in his pulse and breathing from abnormal to normal was a 'spiritual female entity' who he saw with his eyes closed and became aware of in the beginning of his smoked DMT experience.  My fiancé was worried right after the second or third 'hit' that he was in danger / in peril from the smoked DMT (along with his pulse and breathing being so abnormal) but -- when the 'female spiritual entity' appeared before him, he told me that she said to him -- directly -- that 'he would be okay and that she would watch over him during the whole experience to make sure he would be calm and centered and not worried or bothered any longer due to her presence and her unique capabilities / abilities / powers'.  So -- right after she said that to my fiancé -- he calmed down entirely and was just as the female entity said he would be -- 'completely at peace' and 'simply observing the effects of the smoked DMT without anything negative / uncomfortable when it came to the rest of his entire experience following the almost-immediate dissipation of his abnormal plus / abnormal breathing'.

So, the smoked DMT did serve my fiancé well spiritually (and in a religious sense, as well), whereas -- as I already stated -- neither my fiancé nor myself had spiritual and / or religious ayahuasca experiences.

musiclover420 said:

That's pretty strange, I would expect it to be the other way around. Was the aya experience either of your first times with demetri and or tryptamines? Becouse I have heard stories of people having unpleasant first experiences only to go quite deep the next couple times around and have amazing experiences.

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My fiancé and I both considered our individual ayahuasca experiences to be no less than 'deep' (so to speak, at least).  It was an unbelievably intense experience for both of us and was 'deep' in terms of visuals and 'philosophical thoughts' and overall intensity.  It just wasn't spiritual or religious for either of us.

As for whether the brew had demetri and / or tryptamines -- all I know is that it was a proper, legitimate ayahuasca brew.  As I said before -- I will ask my fiancé about which brew he made and I will return with the answer.

musiclover420 said:

Thanks for all the info, what I meant about the demetri question is if it was either or both of you two's first time trying that type of thing. And that's good it had depth, trptamines have a cool relationship with deep/ philosophical thought, I would be suprised if anyone had a experience lacking depth.

The reason I am interested in what type of brew was used is mainly how long you said it lasted, and also the nature of the experience. I could see rue being less spiritual potentialy and caapi being more spiritual. Also did you do a ritualistic type ceremony or just go for it? I have heard the ritualistic aspect of psychedelics can really change the nature of the experience. Thanks again for sharing!

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Thank you for your kind "thank you's" and for sharing with me your knowledge of ayahuasca!.

My fiancé tells me it was a 'syrian rue' brew.  As far as the 'specific dosage', he doesn't know.  But -- both my fiancé and I remember it being a 16~ hour trip from start to finish for both of us.

As far as whether it was a 'ritualistic session' or not -- we didn't do anything ritualistic, really.  Set and setting were at my fiancé's home, in his room, just him and I, tripping from evening to the next afternoon.  It was pretty much the same set and setting as with many of our trips on other psychedelics like Psilocybin and LSD (aside from the trips we spent tripping outdoors, like in nature).