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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
Legend said:
we are all human, i think she's on point.


Yes we are all human. She is also black and a lesbian though.

She and you have a problem with labels. What is so different about using "black" as a label rather than human? Saying black is more specific. That is what language is used for, to describe things specifically and accurately. So resorting to the most fundamental similarity between us all as the only appropriate label is counterproductive to the development of the English language IMO.

But really if you have a problem with the LABEL, "Black" what is so different about the LABEL, "human?"

It seems you are suggesting the problem as a solution to the problem.


Yeah.
I am sure "non-white" and "non-lesbian" would be much more acceptable terms for these overly sensitive folks.:rolleyes:


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: California]
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California said:
Are you implying that Oprah is racist, sexist, or otherwise discriminates?



Yes, but she shows it with compassion instead of hatred.


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Acaterpillar]
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Acaterpillar said:
California said:
Are you implying that Oprah is racist, sexist, or otherwise discriminates?



Yes, but she shows it with compassion instead of hatred.


Ouch.  Way to judge and label Oprah. 

Simply using a term, whether it is "lesbian" or "African American" does not mean that it is being used with hate.  Your mind is small, and you are the problem.


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Acaterpillar]
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Acaterpillar said:
California said:
Are you implying that Oprah is racist, sexist, or otherwise discriminates?



Yes, but she shows it with compassion instead of hatred.


Compassion towards any one race in particular = hatred towards every other race. She is preferring once race over another, it doesn't matter if it is done kindly or with hatred, it is racism.


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Acaterpillar]
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Looks like she's having a change of attitude. She went from colorless to black in just a few days.  http://www.mtv.com/news/1957694/raven-symone-african-american-black-oprah/

"Revan responds to backlash, "I never said I wasn't black, I am not African-American...I never expected my personal beliefs and comments to spark such emotion"

Edited by qman (10/08/14 09:16 PM)

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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: California]
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California said:
Acaterpillar said:
California said:
Are you implying that Oprah is racist, sexist, or otherwise discriminates?



Yes, but she shows it with compassion instead of hatred.


Ouch.  Way to judge and label Oprah. 

Simply using a term, whether it is "lesbian" or "African American" does not mean that it is being used with hate.  Your mind is small, and you are the problem.



That gave me a good laugh.

Entertaining troll is entertaining.


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Looks like she's having a change of attitude. She went from colorless to black in just a few days.  http://www.mtv.com/news/1957694/raven-symone-african-american-black-oprah/

"Revan responds to backlash, "I never said I wasn't black, I am not African-American...I never expected my personal beliefs and comments to spark such emotion"


I've never actually watched the interview. She claimed she was colorless and not an african-american but still wanted to retain her "blackhood?"

:ilold:


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
qman said:
Looks like she's having a change of attitude. She went from colorless to black in just a few days.  http://www.mtv.com/news/1957694/raven-symone-african-american-black-oprah/

"Revan responds to backlash, "I never said I wasn't black, I am not African-American...I never expected my personal beliefs and comments to spark such emotion"


I've never actually watched the interview. She claimed she was colorless and not an african-american but still wanted to retain her "blackhood?"

:ilold:


After further consideration she realized she made an ass out of herself, she went from "I'm an American and that's a colorless person" to this a few days later "I never said I wasn't black".  :lol:

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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: qman]
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So much :facepalm:

What a :shitbird:


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Acaterpillar]
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Acaterpillar said:
California said:
Acaterpillar said:
California said:
Are you implying that Oprah is racist, sexist, or otherwise discriminates?



Yes, but she shows it with compassion instead of hatred.


Ouch.  Way to judge and label Oprah. 

Simply using a term, whether it is "lesbian" or "African American" does not mean that it is being used with hate.  Your mind is small, and you are the problem.



That gave me a good laugh.

Entertaining troll is entertaining.


I am not trolling at all.  It is true that using certain terms does not necessarily equate to hate.  You apparently have a problem understanding this.  Your mind is small, and you are the problem.


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
qman said:
Looks like she's having a change of attitude. She went from colorless to black in just a few days.  http://www.mtv.com/news/1957694/raven-symone-african-american-black-oprah/

"Revan responds to backlash, "I never said I wasn't black, I am not African-American...I never expected my personal beliefs and comments to spark such emotion"


I've never actually watched the interview. She claimed she was colorless and not an african-american but still wanted to retain her "blackhood?"

:ilold:


Why didn't she just say that she was "non-white"?  lolz.. What an idiot.


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: California]
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California said:
It is true that using certain terms does not necessarily equate to hate.  You apparently have a problem understanding this.  Your mind is small, and you are the problem.




How very assumptive of you :strokebeard:


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: qman]
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Imagine trying to conduct the U.S. census with her.


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Seriously_trippin said:
Imagine trying to conduct the U.S. census with her.


:rofl:


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Seriously_trippin said:
Imagine trying to conduct the U.S. census with her.


:lolsy:


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
:lol: a bit blunt but it is very comparable.

Well I think this debate is settled...


Yup. Just not the way you seem to "think".


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Webster10 said:
:lol: a bit blunt but it is very comparable.

Well I think this debate is settled...


Yup. Just not the way you seem to "think".


Notice how that literally meant nothing. If you're going to try to argue this again I will be happy to refute you again.


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Acaterpillar]
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Acaterpillar said:
California said:
Acaterpillar said:
Labels and stereotypes are convenient when referring to populations of people.

But when you're addressing an individual, it's unnecessary and retroactive.
It keeps you from seeing the real person you're presented with.



Bullshit.  It is not unnecessary or retroactive in the instance I gave earlier if she were my missing roommate and the police wanted relevant info to help find her.  It would in fact be necessary and proactive.



This is becoming semantics.
:facepalm:


No, it's just some being moronic.

Describing a missing room-mate being compared to groups being labeled would be funny if it wasn't such a stupid thing to say.


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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: Webster10]
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Webster10 said:
luvdemshrooms said:
Webster10 said:
:lol: a bit blunt but it is very comparable.

Well I think this debate is settled...


Yup. Just not the way you seem to "think".


Notice how that literally meant nothing. If you're going to try to argue this again I will be happy to refute you again.


In order to do something "again", you'd have had to have done it previously.

What a non-surprise that you don't grasp such a simple concept.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: "Cosby Show" star Raven-Symone 'I'm not Gay, and I'm not African -American [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
Webster10 said:
luvdemshrooms said:
Webster10 said:
:lol: a bit blunt but it is very comparable.

Well I think this debate is settled...


Yup. Just not the way you seem to "think".


Notice how that literally meant nothing. If you're going to try to argue this again I will be happy to refute you again.


In order to do something "again", you'd have had to have done it previously.

What a non-surprise that you don't grasp such a simple concept.


Again notice how that wasn't relevant to the discussion at hand. Please just leave the personal jabs out of it, I don't take offense to them so you are just wasting your time.

You attempted to argue labels are stupid. You were explained to why labels aren't stupid. You got shut down too early, fled and are now trying to claim you never argued or were refuted in the first place.


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