Home | Community | Message Board


Azarius
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Advanced Mycology

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop: Agar, Rye Grain, Wild Bird Seed

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
Invisiblemicro
bunbun has a gungun
Male User Gallery

Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 7,532
Loc: Brick City
Claviceps purpurea sclerotium in vitro?
    #2045133 - 10/26/03 05:47 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

There's a discussion about this on the hive, and I was wondering if anyone has tried to form sclerotia by starving or cold shocking the mycelium on a solid rye substrate. It seems like the mycelium forms sclerotia in a parasitic manner in the ovary of rye, but is it impossible to just expose it to adverse conditions to try and get sclerotia?

Thanks,

--
Micro


--------------------
Any research paper or book for free
(Avatar is Maxxy, a character by Mizzyam, RIP)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Anonymous

Re: Claviceps purpurea sclerotium in vitro? [Re: micro]
    #2045138 - 10/26/03 05:49 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

It has yet to be done succesfully by pharmaceutical companies with oodles of cash and equipment.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineetard
etheonogenesis

Registered: 06/10/03
Posts: 449
Loc: Wisconsin
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months
Re: Claviceps purpurea sclerotium in vitro? [Re: ]
    #2045197 - 10/26/03 06:07 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Just think about how nice that would be? I would not have to wait another five years to get a fake hit again.....God dammit.


--------------------
.oOo. Selling your babies for my bandwidth since 1994 .oOo.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblemicro
bunbun has a gungun
Male User Gallery

Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 7,532
Loc: Brick City
Re: Claviceps purpurea sclerotium in vitro? [Re: etard]
    #2045206 - 10/26/03 06:11 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Lol -- I wouldn't actually eat the ergot, unless you want you arms and legs to fall off (and, oh yeah -- die.)

Funny story -- this guy in the 1600's was so convinced that ergot was not the cause of ergotism he ate a cup full of ergot. Needless to say he died the next day (and probably had one hell of a trip....) (out of a mycotoxins textbook)

--
Micro


--------------------
Any research paper or book for free
(Avatar is Maxxy, a character by Mizzyam, RIP)


Edited by micro (10/26/03 06:13 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinestara
addict

Registered: 05/14/03
Posts: 473
Last seen: 1 year, 6 months
Re: Claviceps purpurea sclerotium in vitro? [Re: micro]
    #2049740 - 10/28/03 06:01 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Is there any dosage for ergot ;too less to die and too much to trip?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineRaadt
nicht

Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 2,104
Loc: azurescending
Last seen: 9 years, 5 months
Re: Claviceps purpurea sclerotium in vitro? [Re: stara]
    #2050456 - 10/28/03 02:05 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

^ ^ ^ "too little to die, and enough to trip"


--------------------
Raadt

-- The information I provide is only information from readings, growing of gourmet mushrooms, and second hand stories--


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineEkstaza
stranger thanmost
 User Gallery

Registered: 04/11/03
Posts: 4,317
Loc: Around the corner
Last seen: 20 days, 14 hours
Re: Claviceps purpurea sclerotium in vitro? [Re: Raadt]
    #2050519 - 10/28/03 02:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Well one might live after proper medical treatment and they might also learn to get along quite nicely without fingers and toes.


--------------------
YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH ANY GIVEN DRUG ISN'T THE DEFINITIVE MEASURE OF THE DRUGS EFFECTS.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflinePsily_Rabbit
Yotser
Registered: 10/01/03
Posts: 9
Last seen: 13 years, 3 months
Re: Claviceps purpurea sclerotium in vitro? [Re: Ekstaza]
    #2053777 - 10/29/03 03:48 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Don't try this at home, thats all i can say


--------------------
Pleasure or pain?
Weakness or power?
Ignorance or Knowledge?
All go hand in hand, you choose your path.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblealtarego
member
Registered: 10/25/01
Posts: 130
Re: Claviceps purpurea sclerotium in vitro? [Re: Psily_Rabbit]
    #2056399 - 10/30/03 07:51 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Check out this link:

Ergot

I consistently find ergot sclerotia in my bulk organic rye bags. Once I tried cold shocking, surface sterilizing and fruiting them on water agar, but to no avail. It was a single experiment that did not work, and is well worth looking into further.

- AE


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleDazedSol
old hand

Registered: 08/01/01
Posts: 1,230
Re: Claviceps purpurea sclerotium in vitro? [Re: ]
    #2063303 - 11/01/03 07:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I honestly dont know....so i'll ask :smile:

Isnt pharaceutical grade ergotamine tartate synthetically produced? Pharm companies dont actually grow ergot contamed grains do they? 


--------------------
Peace,
Adam


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblemycofile
Pooh-Bah
 User Gallery

Registered: 01/19/99
Posts: 2,336
Loc: Uranus
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Claviceps purpurea sclerotium in vitro? [Re: DazedSol]
    #2068070 - 11/03/03 03:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I don't know if Pharm companies do, but birdseed companies sure seem to :wink:  (although in all honestly I never truly id'd the sclerotia, the cheap birdseed was full of sclerotia of some type).


--------------------
"From a certain point of view"
-Jedi Master Obi Wan Kenobi

PM me with any cultivation questions.

I just looked at my profile and realized I had a website at one point in time on geocities, it's not there anymore and I have no idea what I had on it. Anybody remember my website from several years aga? PM if so please.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Amazon Shop: Agar, Rye Grain, Wild Bird Seed

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Advanced Mycology

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* claviceps purpurea cateyes 3,012 17 11/19/05 11:43 AM
by mediman0078
* Ergot cultivation
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Nalim 21,781 75 05/30/07 03:18 AM
by RogerRabbit
* Ergot Sclerotia in Rye Grain altarego 13,355 17 02/01/09 09:31 PM
by inski
* ergot bluepoo 1,459 7 05/16/02 09:01 AM
by Harleydavidson
* Claviceps....purpurea B.I.O. 811 2 10/01/01 02:57 PM
by meme
* PDF of Ergot 'Manual'
( 1 2 3 all )
No_Life_G33k 7,384 49 01/24/14 08:52 AM
by spore baby
* Can any of you grow Ergot?
( 1 2 all )
Indubitableness 6,249 35 12/20/03 04:42 AM
by Granola
* Ps.Mexicana Sclerotium/Fruitbody %ratio VanderM 1,218 5 10/08/02 05:54 AM
by ruderallis

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: RogerRabbit, bodhisatta
1,564 topic views. 1 members, 1 guests and 2 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
MushroomCube.com
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2017 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.026 seconds spending 0.005 seconds on 19 queries.