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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Sheekle]
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Many people experience pleasure from causing pain in others. People who do are probably very tempted on a daily basis to hurt others in order to feel said pleasure on a daily basis.

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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: nooneman]
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most of the biggest douchewads I've met are only popular because they were spoiled:shrug:

girls love that 12 year old on the hill screwy mentality


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Konyap]
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Many people are disappointed with their life, feel trapped in the rat race and live an existence void of light. They don't have God or Love or Psychedelics in their life to show them there's more than the materialist crapshow they wake up to every day.

Others are pro jerks, personality constellations geared to dupe and victimize others or at least rain battery acid on their parade. Antisocial personality disorder, psychopaths, narcissists, dissocial paranoid people. They are the darkest pits of misanthropic darkness in the lives of the former category, they are about one in 20 people and often are in charge over you somehow as they seek to secure positions of power over people to exploit them.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Asante]
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I always had a little idea that Jesus was the opposite of a sociopath;
A man who is dead inside compelled to do acts of good.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Apollyphelion]
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I mentioned "having God" as a source of hope that there's more than meets the eye in the world, rgardless if that is true or not. Its the hope and faith itself thats beneficial to escape life's often depressing monotony. Psychedelics can do the same for you.

Christ as "dead inside"?  On what do you base that?


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Sheekle]
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Sheekle said:
Tmethyl said:
Sheekle said:
When people are bad to me I just try to gain a higher understanding of where they're coming from instead of automatically wanting to be bad back



That's beautiful.
Have you read Eckhart Tolles "the power of now"?
What you've said is basically the basis of the entire book.
Well done, many(almost everyone) never make it this far. :heart:


That's weird that it's an uncommon thing to do

I sort of assumed everybody who was over the age of 5 did that


yeah, i think it is pretty common

only a child or drama queen would retaliate by fighting fire with fire

i guess it can depend on the magnitude of the situation and other factors like who is involved (family members, friends), what is involved (alcohol, cheating, stealing), etc.

but even then, evaluating and understanding is vital


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
I mentioned "having God" as a source of hope that there's more than meets the eye in the world, rgardless if that is true or not. Its the hope and faith itself thats beneficial to escape life's often depressing monotony. Psychedelics can do the same for you.

Christ as "dead inside"?  On what do you base that?


I mean, I think it is a cool Idea that just like a sociopath Jesus felt nothing for no one or himself. But unlike a sociopath his slant was towards benevolence. I kind of equate the idea of selflessness with vacancy, which can be useful, but if Jesus was willing to die for unprovable shit, the light might not be on in the attic. But its okay he was a good guy.

It's not a theory I can prove or would want to, just a catalyst for the idea that 'some people may not feel anything, but they are compelled to do good just the same'


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Apollyphelion]
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Wouldnt the opposite of a sociopath be someone who feels very very much inside, has a very strong moral compass and who bends over backwards to help others and promote and establish the force of Good in the world?

Cause thats me, I always considered myself the polar opposite of a sociopath, if you'd blend a sociopath and me out would come a normal human being.

What they are free of I am overly burdened with and what they lack I have in abundance.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Asante]
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just the word sociopath

means to me someone who has negative qualities that are accepted
Lets face it gangsta rap, jersey shore and CSPAN are sociopathic playgrounds


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Asante]
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I just think it is an interesting thought of connecting emotional vacancy with benevolence.

I get what your saying, but it is very obvious.

How would you approach the situation of an emotionally vacant saint? A non-empathetic person of grace? It's almost alien, but could it exist? Is benevolence dependent on emotion, and if not, what is?

Maybe the better term for what I am trying to convey is an Inverted Sociopath, because the flavor I want to keep in the idea is no empathy.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Apollyphelion]
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How would you approach the situation of an emotionally vacant saint? A non-empathetic person of grace? It's almost alien, but could it exist?


There is such a thing. Many surgeons are almost void of human feelings, their thrill is to cut it open and to fix it, as a personal triumph and intellectual challenge, if the patient dies on the table its a personal failure to them but not a shred of empathy is felt for the patients or their next of kin.

These tend to be very good surgeons in the OR because they have zero emotional distractions to diminish their focus and a great drive to do it right but of course they are extremely awkward to get by your bedside and find out they dont care a flying fuck about you.

I have an online friend who is an EMT, and he has an on/off switch for his human feelings.  If his ambulance arrives at a gruesome accident site he just flips the switch and the most horrid injuries become interesting challenges to fix. He has reassuring words for the patients, but at that time theres no feeling behind it. Of course after the shift he flips back to human mode and then he has to cope with the memories of what hes seen, after the fact.

This ability to get into a near complete professional detachment makes him a very good EMT, the last thing you want is the EMT being just as upset as you the patient are. You want someone who treats you with the precision and steady hand of a watchmaker to maximize your odds of survival.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Asante]
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Good observation!
The on/off switch is a great thing.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Apollyphelion]
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I can't find my off switch. There are situations I try to care less but I just can't.

I care too much about just about all things.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Asante]
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Yeah, I can see how that sux.

Sometimes I say to people who go out of their way to me for nothing
''If you truly cared about me right now, you wouldn't''

Odd little paradox.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Apollyphelion]
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I met a Cambodian in Second Life the other day who was a former buddhist monk, just out of the monastery for a year. He needed a $0.70 ingame item badly and I gifted it to him. This confused him a bit as he hadn't expected a random act of kindness and he felt he should repay it, I told him that the universe had been very giving to me that day and that I was giving back, and him dropping by with a clear need I could easily fulfill to me was a sign to do part of that "giving back to the universe" via him. That made it acceptable to him.

Doing Good isnt always about the person you are doing the Good towards, sometimes they are the context in which you do Good, and them being helped by it on a personal level is a nice bonus.

Doing Good can be its own thing.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Sheekle]
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Sheekle said:
Lots of bad-willed ill-intended stuff that goes on in the world

Like, people will do something while literally deliberately knowing it will lower the quality of life of fellow human beings and do it anyway like just for that fact to be jerks

How come everyone doesn't just hug each other and stuff

When people are bad to me I just try to gain a higher understanding of where they're coming from instead of automatically wanting to be bad back


r u a mean jerk or r u soft and loveable?


I'm sorry, but I can't take you seriously when you abuse the English language like that.


I'm soft and loveable but I can be a jerk too for the right person.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Sheekle]
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Well considering I'm human I'd say I'm both loving and I can be mean. I'm not going to sit here on the internet and act like I'm the perfect nice person that never feels dislike for anybody or any of that shit. I dislike a lot of people. I will say, they've earned my dislike.

I can easily say for myself that before I meet a person, I don't care for them, the second I am introduced to them, is when I base my judgment. I was raised on being able to read someones intentions from the first second they shake your hand, I don't know, old school parents I guess. If I shake someones hand and it's a limp fucking weak grip, then I just say to myself, this guys an asshole. If the person doesn't make eye contact when shaking my hand, then I'll just ignore them and leave.

Point here being, if my first impression of you is good, I will be nice as fuck to you. I HATE being mean, I HATE confrontation. I avoid arguments, I avoid even asking people for things because I don't want to feel like a bother. However, I'll stand up for myself if someone pisses me off. I DO agree that the bigger man walks away from situations to avoid them from ESCALATING though.

I'm just saying, someone bullying a kid in school is something that is just going to happen. There isn't much of a crazy intricate theory behind it. It's evolutionary I think anyway. People have been killing each other forever, for survival, or just for the difference in beliefs, that's life.

I'll say it sucks that it is has to be that way, but it is. I do my best to like everybody but wouldn't you say that's kind of difficult in the world we live in? For anybody who's truthful to who they actually are, being mean has to occur once in awhile. Everybody in the world has some ill intentions towards people, it doesn't make you any better to suppress and lie about them, it's more about how you go about "handling" it. You can express dislike or disagreement in a respectful harmless way.

I don't care how nice somebody is, everybody has distasteful thoughts or intentions in their "mind" at some point or another, it's just a matter of whether they show it or not, but regardless the thoughts themselves are still there.

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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
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I like to try to be better in those regards.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: Sheekle]
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When I'm offended by someone I get mad on the inside but try not to express it.


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Re: why r so many people such jerks? [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said:
I like to try to be better in those regards.


So do I man, totally. I even said, the bigger man walks away, and that is truth.

Besides, even with my temper, I never want to hurt anybody. I'm the kind of guy who if I DID get mad enough to knock someone out or beat them up, RIGHT after I'd help the guy up and say I'm sorry, which is retarded but it's how I am because my tendency for guilt is sky high. I'd feel TERRIBLE. Part of why I never fright is because I know I'm only angry "in that moment" and I will feel horrible later on if I do something. If I saw someone bleeding or in pain that I caused, ugh, I'd feel so horrible, I'd hate myself for awhile.

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