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Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy
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Some of you argue that the pharmaceutical industry is actively suppressing the development of a cure for cancer and ignores the possibility to use cannabis since it can't be patented. I think this is absurd and offensive to all the researchers, health care professionals, nurses and patients dealing with cancer.

So are you one of those people?


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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: plambe] * 1
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cancer was made up by the government, as well as aids





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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: plambe]
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No evidence of this.  A patent does not affect exclusivity periods, which is where the real money is made.  This is a common misunderstanding of drug development.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: plambe] * 1
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How is that offensive to any of those persons? Some people insinuate that a profession might not have all the details so it must be insulting?


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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: Pretty Lights]
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Pretty Lights said:
How is that offensive to any of those persons? Some people insinuate that a profession might not have all the details so it must be insulting?


No, it insinuates that everyone involved in pharmaceutics is a money-hungry demon who suppresses an easily made and effective herbal medicine in favour of expensive creepy chemicals which are less efficient, which in turn insinuates that they're stupid to favour the synthetic medicine instead of the herbal one, since an easily made and effective cure should have them rake in a lot of money.


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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: KremrBigSikter]
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KremrBigSikter said:
Pretty Lights said:
How is that offensive to any of those persons? Some people insinuate that a profession might not have all the details so it must be insulting?


No, it insinuates that everyone involved in pharmaceutics is a money-hungry demon who suppresses an easily made and effective herbal medicine in favour of expensive creepy chemicals which are less efficient, which in turn insinuates that they're stupid to favour the synthetic medicine instead of the herbal one, since an easily made and effective cure should have them rake in a lot of money.


I've always seen the argument as placing blame on a few individuals rather than an entire industry. If you compare it to a government it's rarely an entire system as much as the individuals controlling it.

But yeah.. I remember reading some stuff on how pharmaceutical companies travel the world looking for traditional medicines to synthesize. One instance in particular, which the details seem to be eluding me, they basically stole all of their shit and replaced these tribe's medicines with pharmaceuticals and started raping the land immediately.


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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: Pretty Lights]
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Pretty Lights said:
But yeah.. I remember reading some stuff on how pharmaceutical companies travel the world looking for traditional medicines to synthesize. One instance in particular, which the details seem to be eluding me, they basically stole all of their shit and replaced these tribe's medicines with pharmaceuticals and started raping the land immediately.


That probably does happen, but it's not really related to the cannabis cancer cure conundrum. Cannabis is grown all over the world, sometimes on an industrial scale. If, legality aside, a pharmaceutical company found that something in cannabis could be used as an effective cancer treatment that could replace the conventional ones, they would start growing, extracting and manufacturing right away and make bank.


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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: Pretty Lights]
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Is your question:

1. Do I believe there's a hidden cure for cancer?
2. Do I believe it's marijuana?
3. Do I believe there's a conspiracy by doctors, govt and all scientist to profit from pharmaceutical drug sales by suppressing the cure.

Answer to all of them is no if that's the case.... dont think anyone believes that.

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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: Murph]
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Murph said:
Is your question:

1. Do I believe there's a hidden cure for cancer?
2. Do I believe it's marijuana?
3. Do I believe there's a conspiracy by doctors, govt and all scientist to profit from pharmaceutical drug sales by suppressing the cure.

Answer to all of them is no if that's the case.... dont think anyone believes that.


I've seen people around here claim these three things more often than anywhere else either IRL or online.


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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: Murph] * 1
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Cannabis has been known to make malignant tumours produce whatever enzyme that breaks tissue down inside themselves.  Essentially making the cancer eat itself.
Rick Simpson had something like a 94% efficiency rating with topical application on skin cancers.  I'm not entirely certain exact numbers on other types but it was promising.  The US government stepped in and told him he wasn't a doctor and to stop treating people.
My question is why?  If he's helping people beat cancer and save lives why would anybody stop him?

There is more than one example of people dying because they couldn't get their medicine in states like California where certain cities can't make up their mind as to whether or not they'll follow the will of the people.  I don't see how it could be seen as anything but a conspiracy of asshats profiteering of the suffering of millions and disguising it as a ploy to 'save our moral fibre and our children'.  It's fucking poppycock, people that stand in the way of legalization should be put in prison. 
They can stop federal research at the moment, but science is on the side of Cannabis.


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sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: TheGreenArrow]
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Stupid. You know how much money a cure for either would make?! but of course no matter how much you explain to someone they will continue to blanket everything with it's a "conspiracy". That shit is for simple minded people.

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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: Gorlax]
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:tinfoil:


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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: TheGreenArrow]
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Hey you're preaching to the choir man. I'm in full support of legalization for medical and recreation use but I still dont think it's a "cure" for cancer. If I found out I had cancer I wouldn't rely on just marijuana if the doctor said I needed chemo, radiation or surgery......but that's just my opinion :shrug:

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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: Murph]
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It's an effective treatment.  Actually go look up how many cancer patients it has helped.  Don't take anybody's word for it, do your own research!  Of course I'm not declaring a panacea but if it walks like a duck and fucking quacks...

Sure there's no federal research done to back it up because the DOJ won't give researchers cannabis to actually use in the research.  So any work done would have to be done with "illegal" cannabis.  It's bullcrap, and if you buy into it you might as well start bleating with the rest of the sheeple.


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A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a
sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein
Saint RedBow of the Shroomey Loomey-Patron Saint of Sandbaggin Sumbitchs

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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: Gorlax] * 4
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Gorlax said:
Stupid. You know how much money a cure for either would make?! but of course no matter how much you explain to someone they will continue to blanket everything with it's a "conspiracy". That shit is for simple minded people.



There's far more money on treating someone compared to curing them.


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btw you're a total fucking psychedelic pimp
Turtletotem said:
I want to become a sun worshipper, so next time an atheist smugly asks me where god is, I can point smugly at the sun and laugh my ass off.

Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

Religion is fun.

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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: plambe]
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plambe said:
Some of you argue that the pharmaceutical industry is actively suppressing the development of a cure for cancer and ignores the possibility to use cannabis since it can't be patented. I think this is absurd and offensive to all the researchers, health care professionals, nurses and patients dealing with cancer.

So are you one of those people?






pharmaceutical companies actively suppress lots of drugs, it's a profit driven industry and corruption is rampant.
My dad used to work for a major one protecting their secrets and info in general.
Those commercials you see on televisions where lawyers are like 'call us if you grew bitch tits on this drug'?
They are actually paid for by competing pharmaceutical companies that are hoping to effectively slander the named drugs and drive people away from them.


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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: Gorlax]
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Gorlax said:
Stupid. You know how much money a cure for either would make?! but of course no matter how much you explain to someone they will continue to blanket everything with it's a "conspiracy". That shit is for simple minded people.


There's money in treatments, not cures. Cures mean there's an end.


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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: Pretty Lights] * 1
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It scares me deep down to think how far Nancy Reagan got embedded into our culture.  People are too afraid to even talk amongst themselves for fear of being turned in by their neighbor. 
That's why forums like this and across the internet are going to change the sociopolitical landscape.  Because people can talk to each other without fear of reprisal.

Hopefully people will wake up soon and realize the ridiculousness of the whole situation and at least let sick people grow their own medicine.


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invasion, butcher a hog, design a building, conn a ship, write a
sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve an
equation, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.- Robert A. Heinlein
Saint RedBow of the Shroomey Loomey-Patron Saint of Sandbaggin Sumbitchs

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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: TheGreenArrow]
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TheGreenArrow said:
Hopefully people will wake up soon and realize the ridiculousness of the whole situation and at least let sick people grow their own medicine.


Mmmhmm.

If these companies and governments really cared they would let people be happy with a choice that could be debated until their end, rather than torture them with meds that are far from perfect and annihilate any happiness to be had in those trying times.


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Re: Cannabis, cancer and global pharmaceutical conspiracy [Re: fee]
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fee said:
Gorlax said:
Stupid. You know how much money a cure for either would make?! but of course no matter how much you explain to someone they will continue to blanket everything with it's a "conspiracy". That shit is for simple minded people.



There's far more money on treating someone compared to curing them.


or just half assing treatment instead of just letting them die/go ugly


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