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cebil prep methods
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Greetings friends. I recently came across the following passages on a different messageboard and was wondering if anyone else can confirm activity with such a preparation method of a. columbrina (cebil):

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I found myself preparing eight seeds in much the same method. The portion was divided in two, and each portion added to a glass of fresh grapefruit juice. I drank mine relatively quickly, and effects were felt in about 15mins. I have an extremely fast metabolism and my friend felt nothing for the first 45. The feeling started with the familiar closed eye images, and soon escalated into a beautiful feeling of electricity throughout my mind and body. Open eye visuals, mental and physical effects were much fuller and more vivid than in the first dream. My depth perception was increased quite a bit, and "tracers" seemed to be more detailed and "worked in" to the visual patterns than dreams I've had about mushrooms or salvia. The effects of this dream lasted several hours, and from what I remember, I slept well that night with no physical effects the next morning.

Looking back, I really liked dreaming that I added the crushed seeds to juice. The dream in which the seeds were smoked was not interesting enough for me to want to explore that route further. Next time, I'd like to dream of 8 or 10 seeds in a drink that would compliment the taste.




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The addition of lime is not necessary to make the snuff active. Manuel Torres and another prominent ethnobotanist who would probably rather not be named in this context, both told me that the lime only increases the pain, and does not increase the psychoactivity. I have had a dream in which I snuffed several grams of A. colubrina var. cebil seeds, which were quite active and not at all painful. There was of course the discomfort of snorting a large amount of foreign material, and having the 'yopo-flavoured' drip-back from my nose trickling down my throat, but not pain.




Any comments or suggestions? How necessary is lime (calcium bicarbonate)? Much thanks :thumbup:
   


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Re: cebil prep methods [Re: Xochitl]
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lime is not essential but a small ammount of it seems to make the alkaloids more water soluble and thats desirable for snuffs...


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Re: cebil prep methods [Re: Xochitl]
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double post.. i'll just fix that for ya..

-enth

Edited by entheomation (09/29/03 10:07 PM)

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Re: cebil prep methods [Re: Xochitl]
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First quote is bunk.... grapefruit juice would not provide a strong enough MAOI, it'd get eaten up in the gut anyway. And grapefruit juice isn't even as acidic as other alternatives, so if their intention was as an acid to "extract" then they're wrong there.

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Re: cebil prep methods [Re: neuro]
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i thought that strange too, perhaps with some MAOI but grapefruit? =)
thanks enth i don't know how the hell that happened!


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Re: cebil prep methods [Re: neuro]
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Thanks neuro and felix! I figured grapefruit juice would not be a strong MAOi candidate. If anyone knows a good source for quality, edible lime, PM me. :thumbup: 


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