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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: esin]
    #3394540 - 11/21/04 08:25 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

that's a good idea, I'll have to try that... what kind of paper would you use, rolling paper?


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: gdman]
    #3394656 - 11/21/04 08:47 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Rolling paper or tissue paper. Tissue paper may be best for such large parachutes because it is softer and probably easier to swallow. I also heard in an ODD thread it melts faster.

Post your findings if you try it!


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: esin]
    #3394682 - 11/21/04 08:51 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

ok definitly, if I don't do it within th enext day or so, it won't be untill after thanksgiving weekend.


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: DadeMurphy]
    #3395286 - 11/22/04 10:13 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

The most efficient way is to take very finely powdered herb in a tablespoon, dump onto back of tongue, and chase with hot water or hot water/lemon juice mix.


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: Organic]
    #3395441 - 11/22/04 08:01 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Hey all thanks for the good input!
esin: Interesting idea. I have read a thread though that said gel capping and swallowing was not very effective compared to tea. Also erowid says "traditionally when the leaves are eaten a hot liquid is drunk immediately afterwards" or something to that effect. This makes me think hot liquid is crucial to bring out the alkaloids. Also I'm not sure I would want to eat rolling papers regularly :smile:
But yeah try it out and post back.
Organic: You're absolutley right. But the idea is to not have to eat the kratom directly. It get's really gross.
Anyways good input everyone!
Keep experimenting. I finally got my kilo so I'll be posting here in a while.
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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: Organic]
    #3395449 - 11/22/04 08:02 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

certainly is, did it today


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: gdman]
    #3395685 - 11/22/04 08:50 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

did you notice any increase in the duration of effect?


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: Organic]
    #3395737 - 11/22/04 08:58 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

ehh the duration is useually long, very long, wether I use water extraction or not, I used alittle less though this time round, if I ate my normal amount, that would be something, still sorta feeling it. It was a little more intense, I guess.


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: gdman]
    #3395783 - 11/22/04 09:05 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Would grapefruit potentiate kratom like it does opiates?


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: Lifenergy]
    #3395785 - 11/22/04 09:06 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

not sure


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: Lifenergy]
    #3396041 - 11/22/04 10:10 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

I was wondering the same thing myself, I think it's Celestial Seasonings makes a tea called Metabolife with concetrated grapefruit alkaloids, i might give that a go.


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: schmutzen]
    #3396336 - 11/22/04 11:22 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

i dnt think grapfrit potentiates opaites. it potentiates diazapam though. hmm althought it does mention here http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/opiates/opiates_info3.shtml most of teh sources are anonymous. and i dont recall reading a label on opaites that says avoidn grapfruit juice. so even if it did work it wouldnt work very well as with morphien it could be very dangerous.

also it could interfear with the metabolization, and potentially decrease effect. i dont know forsure though this is just my thoughts. play safe ,experiment.



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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: Lifenergy]
    #3397030 - 11/23/04 03:54 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Would grapefruit potentiate kratom like it does opiates?




Not for me.


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: the man]
    #3397031 - 11/23/04 03:55 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

of coarse gf juice potentiates opiates, dunno about kratom though, but ive always wondered.
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i think hot water is essential, at least in my trials with kratom. eating it straight with cold water gave far less of a buzz then drinking with hot water. And ive done this a few times with the same results and always considered tolerance so it was a fair comparison.

ive tried eating with a spoonful before though, i would never recommend it. its way too difficult and disgusting. if you're going to eat it, put it in a cup and pour hot or boiling water on it and let it cool off a bit so you're able to drink it, but it should still be hot. it will still be disgusting, but drink as much as possible, then when the water gets low, pour cold water in, and drink and pour till you get it all out. of coarse use premium kratom so its powdered best and you wont need as much. at least this is how i do it and ive found this to be the best way for me when eating it. and eating it is the way to get the best effects.


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: Organic]
    #3397266 - 11/23/04 06:57 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

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Organic said:
The most efficient way is to take very finely powdered herb in a tablespoon, dump onto back of tongue, and chase with hot water or hot water/lemon juice mix.




Ugghh. That was still nasty. But much better than drinking a big mug of drek. I'm chasing with hot water, I don't have lemon juice but I'll try that next time.... Damn this was definitely better, it makes me want to buy a kilo.  :cool:

Fuck. I fear this is going to be scheduled in the next couple of years. I want some plants before then, so I can respect the ban in the same way I respect the bans on shrooms, weed, and khat.  :wink: Thanks for the info. I really enjoy this forum.

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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: GoaM]
    #3397905 - 11/23/04 11:02 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Glad you enjoyed :smile: The taste of a big spoonful will become easier to handle as you get used to the better effect :smile:

I'm wanting plants too


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: Organic]
    #3398060 - 11/23/04 11:46 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

take 7grams K
grind to powder
spread peanut butter on 2 pieces of bread
pour K powder in between the 2 pieces of bread
eat!
ENJOY!
this does a great job of masking the taste!just dont take your time or the taste will start to shine through.
i puke everytime i make a tea.the sandwich method really helps with the nausea


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: skullfarmer1979]
    #3401732 - 11/24/04 01:03 AM (19 years, 2 months ago)

Just got a kilo of good kratom. Did 7.5 g via the "take a spoonful and dump it on the back of your tongue, chase with hot water" method.

Still feeling it from 9:30 or so (it's 1 here), so definately the most effective way of injesting. It was, however, the nastiest thing ever to eat. I literally gagged and came very close to vomiting as soon as I put it in my mouth. It's just so dry and powdery that you cannot swallow...ugh never again will I do that.
Anyways I'll try parachuting next time, and improved water extractions afterwards. Peace


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: DadeMurphy]
    #3405239 - 11/24/04 05:36 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

can anyone answer on what kind of dose u would need to feel it with kratom premium ground powder?

also what about the resin extract? (1g is supposed to equal 7g of leaves)

i know that maybe someone has posted it before, but i have been lurking around the kratom threads for a while and am wondering about an ESTIMATE or other users opinions!
- ive never done it before


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Re: Improving Kratom Ingestion Methods [Re: whitegreyhat]
    #3405281 - 11/24/04 05:49 PM (19 years, 2 months ago)

6-7g of mrkratom premium was a solid dose for me the first time i dosed properly. Smoke some good greens once you feel strong effects from the kratom :nut:


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