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Re: Shamanism [Re: FishOilTheKid]
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The evil.. yes... true evil is rare.. doing things simply to cause suffering.. no justification.. then again does it matter.. action is action and all..

there is evil.. evil and good in all.. we have only the oppotunity of choice.. to make choices.. we do not make these coices, but we can chose which to take..


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And thus begins the  reverse-fusing of our one-dimentional understanding, and adds ever-expanding perspectives, in depth and number; splitting our perception, and in so doing, seemingly irrationally, creates yet more one-ness, with all that ever was, is and will ever be, streching across the infinite, inunderstood concept of everything, percievable and not.

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Re: Shamanism [Re: Icyus]
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They treat us like animals...

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Re: Shamanism [Re: FishOilTheKid]
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Who are they? The interdimentional reptile alien pedophile vampires controlling the world?


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Re: Shamanism [Re: Icyus]
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They claim that they are Baphomet.  And Lucifer.  They pretend that they are Jesus.  They have also claimed that they are in fact extraterrestrial but far too human.  Like they steal or copy elements of the way people are and form or construct personalities that are like the playground bully.

The have a way of fucking with you by forcing energy up your ass and making you feel like you are being raped.

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Re: Shamanism [Re: FishOilTheKid]
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In many ways.. they are both god and satan.. you may chose what to accept.. it is about your perception..


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Re: Shamanism [Re: Icyus]
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Except some won't leave me alone.  Its not my choice anymore.  I fight them off daily and crack them like eggshells.  They've determined that I'm a bad person becuase I could channel 'forces.'  And the whole believing that Jesus is a mushroom or was ingesting mushrooms really pisses them off.  Its religious oppression imposed by the spirits themselves that are anti spiritual and against direct experience through entheogens.

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Re: Shamanism [Re: FishOilTheKid]
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You have to change your frequency.. find something to love, and they will not be able to touch you.


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And thus begins the  reverse-fusing of our one-dimentional understanding, and adds ever-expanding perspectives, in depth and number; splitting our perception, and in so doing, seemingly irrationally, creates yet more one-ness, with all that ever was, is and will ever be, streching across the infinite, inunderstood concept of everything, percievable and not.

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Re: Shamanism [Re: Icyus]
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Not true.  I love plenty.  They actually channel the 'gold' away from the body and source their blessings that they give to followers from my energy system that at one time was full to the brim with LOVE.  ...A sort of cosmic love.

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Re: Shamanism [Re: FishOilTheKid]
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:popcorn:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Shamanism [Re: lessismore]
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mio said:
Trippinhighman said:
Well I cannot honestly say that I am without fear.
I'm working on living in the here and now but it is proving to be quite difficult.


you must read "The power of Now", Eckhart Tolle

you are not your thoughts

cheap book, someone gave it to me, it changes you as a person forever


Interesting.
My mother gave me that book to read. I have it now, just have a hard time taking self help books seriously. The more people that tell me about it the more I feel like I'm missing out on something.
Similar to The Four Agreements. I had to stay focused on finishing it even when I started to get the vibe that it was bullshit. Definitely recommend it to anyone to at least check out though.

:mushroom2:


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Re: Shamanism [Re: FishOilTheKid]
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FishOilTheKid said:
From the time I was 18 until the time I was about 23 I was very interested in Shamanism and access to the spirit world.


What happened at 23 if I may ask?


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Re: Shamanism [Re: Trippinhighman]
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Well you needed to read the several sequels and purchase the workbook to REALLY get what it was about. :satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Shamanism [Re: Icelander]
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I think understanding is achieved through attitude more than WHAT you're reading.

But you already knew this.

Peace and love to you:sun:


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Re: Shamanism [Re: Trippinhighman]
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Trippinhighman said:
FishOilTheKid said:
From the time I was 18 until the time I was about 23 I was very interested in Shamanism and access to the spirit world.


What happened at 23 if I may ask?


I lived in Seattle at the time and my previous experience six months ago of 'Christ' or what have you made the population suspect for outlawing the way.  The higher self.  Anyway I got into the idea of the worship of Lucifer as a representation of God in the Garden offering enlightenment to 'mankind.'

I was eating psilocybin chocolates that I had bought in bellingham and I started to get the impression almost in a voice, 'Eat more if you want to know more.'  So I did.

Then in vision I caught a glimpse of a UFO above the city with a beam shining down from it.  This beam hit me in the forehead and top of the head with loud pop and my awareness swelled into a giant sphere.  There were presences all around me talking about me.  It seemed I could hear all the sounds of the city all around me.  I heard sirens everywhere.

Then, three loud booms on the train tracks just below my apartment on the city side of magnolia.  It sounded like a crash landing but I knew in my mind that the train cars had just slammed into each other.j

Anyhoo...  I saw in my mind a spirit entity scramble up the hill from where the sound happened into my apartment and jump in my body.

I got the impression that I was going to die but that I would wake up.

When I woke up I woke up to the smell of death and it felt like my body was soulless and decaying.

Something took my mind and I couldn't remember anything.  I died spiritually and it was the end of the world a world inhabited by evil.

The voices insisted on Suicide because I was going to talk about it when they instructed me not to.  I talked and the collective experience shredded my mind with its chaos.

I was hospitalized and sent to a waking hell.  Its taken like 8 years to put it all into perspective.

And since where ever I go 'they' are with me in some form I sort of gave up the interest.  Its all more of an annoyance and a real hindrance.

I've seen 3 'modern' shamans and they were all charlatans charging a shit ton of money and they weren't even in contact with 'them.'

I give up.  My main battle is with the medical community and modern psychiatry completely disregarding the notion of a spirit world with its own population then trying to effect change with their chemicals.

Now that I know that the spirits are in fact real the approach by modern psychiatry is all wrong and that is what I've learned.  Its either a grand conspiracy, a cover up, or they truly don't know what they are doing.  Ignorance as authority.

I guess I'm still sort of overwhelmed.  Those on the other side don't exactly prep you for what you are about to experience and you choices are very important.  I fell.

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Re: Shamanism [Re: Icyus]
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Icyus said:
Cant you get some acid too, for that price? Acid change you too..


nope... book is cheaper than an acid trip here

acid trip costs 2-3 times more here... $30 for an acid trip here

but the book is $10-15 max

they will both teach equally much, the book is essential after an acid trip
if you have tripped acid, read it

the first 5-10 pages will blow your mind, hell.. even the title may ;-P

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Re: Shamanism [Re: lessismore]
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When I was 18 (25 now) I really started getting into shamanism. I really thought that was my calling. I even had a Shamanic death and rebirth experience. I've had many out of body experiences. And to this day I feel like I can sense spirits. I HATE telling people that because I feel like they think I'm crazy. But long story short, I never found a practical use for it and stopped practicing. At the present moment, I feel like I have a few evil spirits attached to me, but I'll get rid of them eventually. The main part is confronting them and not giving in to the temptations they cause. Two nights ago I saw one of them. It's progress because I've had this fear recently... I know they're there but I try to ignore them... but two nights ago I didn't. Anyway even I think I sound fucking crazy so I'm out. Peace.


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Re: Shamanism [Re: Aopocetx]
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You really don't!  I've been dealing with seeing and hearing them since 2006.  Everyday and in dreams since 2008.  Keep sharing and brush off the labels.

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Re: Shamanism [Re: Aopocetx]
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evil spirits thrive on fear, and low vibration actions

don't do drugs most of the time
walk in nature, have houseplants/pets
meditate in nature
help others
simple lifestyle , consider your consumption/the environment

that would be a good way to get rid of them to some degree

I would probably have gone insane if I had kept smoking weed everyday..

some people say psychedelics open the 3rd eye, they certainly can open you to something
but there is no fear, you only open to what your vibration offers
if you live your life in fear you open to bad stuff
if you live with love you open to good stuff

www.trance.fm , something to get your thought off the stuff maybe
no thoughts, no problems
peace

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Re: Shamanism [Re: lessismore]
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mio said:
evil spirits thrive on fear, and low vibration actions


Yeah totally. It's something I've been working on recently. I refuse to keep living in fear.


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Re: Shamanism [Re: lessismore]
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but I think if it is true they can open the 3rd eye for some people,
then what you see has always been there, you are just able to notice it now

you will have attracted bad spirits all your life by your actions
difference is just that you might be able to see them now

our consciousness is our practice, what we give is what we get
to be healthy takes much effort, you must care about your body and others

you cant care about others without caring about yourself, and reverse

love yourself, love others
sounds a bit shamanic maybe?

evil is not possible if you love, or if you are in control of your own life

so that must be the #1 important thing
drugs often make people forget themselves by forgetting to live/do their life

so drugs are only possible in careful moderation, or if you are a very strong shaman

it is only possible to be oneself without drugs/stress/pills

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