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Invisiblethedudenj
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Need a shamans advice
    #5668240 - 05/24/06 11:06 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i have been practicing shamanism and healing an now i feel peopels bad side effects of drugs, illness and pains. am i in any danger?


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: thedudenj]
    #5668594 - 05/24/06 12:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i'm not a shaman but i got all of those things, it intesified for a year or two and then went away after a year or two. don't associate with poeple that have severe (like really severe) mental illness. also better to stay away from poeple on certain types of drugs depending on your personal inclinations (i got some CRAZY severe reactions to what i think was crackheads)


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: thedudenj]
    #5668929 - 05/24/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Do a recapitulation. Make yourself less available. You need to be unattached.


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5668973 - 05/24/06 02:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Do you feel there good side aswell?


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: Springs]
    #5669028 - 05/24/06 02:54 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

you are in danger whenever you extend yourself into the unknown, that is called sorcery.

if you are healing things in people that you have experience with, then you dont have much to worry about.

you are only a skilled healer insofar as you can heal yourself too.

i'm a healer too, some things i can heal easily, like sexual dysfunctions for example.
other things i don't even try to heal anymore becasue i've realized it brings too much suffering onto myself- like trying to heal certain mental illnesses.


what is danger?
are you in danger?
we all are constantly in danger... in danger from what? an illusion?

in this manner, a person who has mastered the unknown until very little is unknown to him anymore, he is a powerful healer, working miracles.
if he is a beginner, in love with the idea of being a healer, there is still alot of unknowns, that will cause pain to aid in his learning and growing. that's how it works.
love is the only thing protecting any of us.


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: Telepylus]
    #5669373 - 05/24/06 04:41 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yeah i try not to extend myself but cant help it i have a brother who does shitty things he smokes alot and now that im home even tho im not around the smoking i cough up my lungs, get head aches , and im plauged with cigerette with draw feeling every time i wake up


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5669478 - 05/24/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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EquilibriuM said:
Do a recapitulation. Make yourself less available. You need to be unattached.




I agree. It sounds as if you are allowing "transference" of another's "hell on earth" upon yourself. Realize that you are the master of your own perceptual universe. Worded very simplistically;

"MAKE THIS REALITY YOUR BITCH"

It sounds self-centered and very "crazy"..but I manifest and control my reality around me as a conductor would an orchestra. Realizing the control you actually have is only the first step. I'm in my infant stages of learning to control my reality.

As Descartes said, "I think, therefore I am". You can only validate your own felt experience. Take it further with psychedelics or intense tantric/yogic training and you see that "all is one". So what you experience is ultimatley what the "everything-ness" chooses. YOU CHOOSE.

If you want to have an affinity with another and share their emotions, you will. The acts of a recapitualation enable you to sever ties with the emotional and logical parts of your ego that attatch you to anything else but the felt experience of "now-ness".

Detatch, realize you are the only one that matters in your reality.

As Don Miguel says,

"Don't take ANYTHING personally"

By allowing (and you are on some level) other's pain and suffering to reach you, you are only limiting yourself.

I don't know if I've made any sense...anyone else care to chime in if they get my "gist"?


Edited by MystikMushroom (05/24/06 05:29 PM)


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: MystikMushroom]
    #5672359 - 05/25/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hmm i dont think i really compeltely control my reality, tho theres rules and if i follow the rules the i can control it like depending on what colour stuff i wear and my actions dictate what will happen to me


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: thedudenj]
    #5673181 - 05/25/06 01:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

i know of shamanism - but know little of shaman transference-

imo you need to be very serious with these practices - much meditation is needed before you can take the burden of ones illness.
You need to release this after every attempt as well..

I wouldnt attempt this again until those ill feelings had left me, meditation being the best way.


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Edited by mickdawg666 (05/25/06 02:06 PM)


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: thedudenj]
    #5673646 - 05/25/06 04:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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thedudenj said:
yeah i try not to extend myself but cant help it i have a brother who does shitty things he smokes alot and now that im home even tho im not around the smoking i cough up my lungs, get head aches , and im plauged with cigerette with draw feeling every time i wake up



that's crazy dude.

whenever i have chest pains people around will me start coughing. not all the time but enough to make it not seem like random.

also someone i know developed chest problems too.... we both had the same thing pretty bad but he says his got better.

my dreams have been relaying to me that the health of another person I know is linked to my health overall, too.


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Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (05/25/06 04:18 PM)


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: leery11]
    #5676211 - 05/26/06 08:05 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

well you send out your problems at poeple i take in and heal it happend again a friend of mine was smoking and i could feel like the inside of my chest burning or that feeling like when its really cold out side i mean like negivite and when you breath it feels like your lungs are sticking together


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: thedudenj]
    #5676760 - 05/26/06 11:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Well if you have a brother who does 'shitty things' perhaps you should try punching him in the head.


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #5676778 - 05/26/06 11:30 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have AIDs.


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: thedudenj]
    #5677237 - 05/26/06 01:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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thedudenj said:
i have been practicing shamanism and healing an now i feel peopels bad side effects of  drugs, illness and pains. am i in any danger?




Only if you think you are..

:confused: :thumbup:


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: thedudenj]
    #5677709 - 05/26/06 04:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I heal little of much but that which would destroy us.


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5677757 - 05/26/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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DoctorJ said:

Also, I have switched bodies during sex. This can be very fun, if you know how to do it. Truly, you become her and she becomes you. You feel what she is feeling, and she feels what you are feeling.





So you are saying you have essentially had sex with a man?


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: domite]
    #5677866 - 05/26/06 05:56 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

no he's not saying that.
i do the same thing.

if you understand anything about god or sex
then you know that the penis and vagina are actually ONE ORGAN
which two beings share during intercourse

and your consciousness can pass between the genders at will basically

of course this will never work if you don't understand womanhood and manhood, and god and sex and all that jazz.

one way to learn how to love your woman better is to try to understand what it might be like to be her.
this doesn't mean having sex with a man, it means having sex with your sacred other, rather than pumping away on some bitch.

this topic has derailed i think.


that was very cool what you said Doctor J
i've never actually met anybody who has "switched bodies" before
but i know exactly what you're talking about.
in fact when i read it, i thought it was my own words, taken from another message board, where i wrote the near exact same thing.


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: Telepylus]
    #5677918 - 05/26/06 06:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

wow holy shit the shit is getting deep in here


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: Microcosmatrix]
    #5678246 - 05/26/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

hmm i like when you can feel the girls arousal pulsing thru you specially with chicks that bite


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Re: Need a shamans advice [Re: thedudenj]
    #5678284 - 05/26/06 08:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

if you take other's pain you gain good karma and probably its just pain and no effect. either way its brave service. your power wont be drained because of it. this is talked about in auto- yogi i think. "the more you give, the more you recieve" is applicable i think.


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