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Re: fuck this shit...diagnosed with schizophrenia [Re: Corporal Kielbasa]
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Corporal Kielbasa said:
Everyone I know that goes gluten free ends up telling me they feel a lot better then when they ate it. 

I agree that there aren't many studies or cases to back up that claim in the link.



Could be placebo, but I'm interested and will look around. Changing over to a vegan diet right now so its not a stretch to do that.

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Re: fuck this shit...diagnosed with schizophrenia [Re: larry.fisherman]
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XLCaps said:
baltimark said:
Bill....
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This schizophrenia was definitely caused by my massive amounts of tripping. I never had any sign of schiz before tripping. sorry I didn't read your whole thread im in a rush at the moment u da man jvells I feel like I just went head  first into the darkness and im getting fucked for it. I wouldn't say I disrespected the trip in general, but I definitely gave it all I had in the tank




This is what some here need to hear....that these drugs, taken to the extreme can leave lasting damage....I'm really hopeful, that the one year lay-off does the trick, but you may need longer and I am confident you will recognize if you do. You pushed way further than anyone I have seen on this forum and it kicked your ass. That was a hard thing for you to admit, but you may be saving someone's life.

I truly wish you the best and  send my prayers for you.:peace::sunny:M



http://www.newssum.com/magic-mushrooms-do-what-to-your-mental-health-3080

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Those are the findings by neuroscience researchers at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology in Trondheim, who reported that LSD, psilocybin and mescaline not only don’t cause long-term mental health problems, but that in many cases the use of psychedelics is associated with a lower rate of mental health problems.

The study (here) pulled data from the US National Survey on Drug Use and Health, observing 130,152 randomly-selected respondents from the adult population of the US. 13.4% of that group (21,967 individuals) reported lifetime use of psychedelics. Comparing this data to standardized screening measures for mental health, the researchers found that neither lifetime psychedelic use nor use of LSD in the past year were independent risk factors for mental health problems—and that, in fact, psychedelic users had lower rates of mental health issues.

Teri S. Krebs and Pål-Ørjan Johansen, the Norwegian researchers, additionally noted that “psychedelic plants have been used for celebratory, religious or healing purposes for thousands of years” and that “psychedelics often elicit deeply personally and spiritually meaningful experiences and sustained beneficial effects… LSD and psilocybin are consistently ranked in expert assessments as causing less harm to both individual users and society than alcohol, tobacco, and most other common recreational drugs. Given that millions of doses of psychedelics have been consumed every year for over 40 years, well-documented case reports of long-term mental health problems following use of these substances are rare.”

The study also found absolutely no evidence that “flashbacks” afflict users of psychedelics, slaying another commonly-held superstition around psychedelic use.

The Norwegian study brings good news for the over 30 million Americans who have used psychedelics (compared to 100 million who have used marijuana). And while the media has been buzzing about Dr. Sanjay Gupta’s revelation that he “changed his mind on weed,” it may be time for psychedelics to get a similar PR rehabilitation.

While psychedelics still conjure images of 1960s-era bad trips like Art Linkletter’s daughter jumping out of a window on acid (an overinflated myth, says Snopes), they have undergone significant research and slow progress towards clinical acceptance in the past decades. Researchers still labor under the immensely negative Timothy Leary-era image of psychedelics, but are steadily chipping away at the cultural deadlock created by what many see as reckless abuse of psychedelics during the 1960s and 70s. Standing in stark contrast to the negatives of that time, however, are the immense clinical benefits that psychedelics are consistently being shown to offer.

Another recent study at the University of South Florida, for instance, found that psilocybin mushrooms erase conditioned fear response in mice, suggesting they could potentially be used to cure PTSD—and that psilocybin can even prompt growth of brain cells.

Multiple studies are currently being conducted (at New York University’s medical school and Johns Hopkins Bayview Medical Center) into using psychedelics to alleviate fear in patients with late-stage terminal illness—easing the experience of death and allowing people to end their lives in states of acceptance instead of terror.

LSD and psilocybin even hold promise for treating cluster headaches, a condition so debilitating and painful that it often leads sufferers to consider suicide.

While marijuana enjoys its time in the spotlight, it may be time for its more potent—and potentially even more beneficial—siblings to join the party.





Dude....you don't know TMJ's history....He pushed things way beyond anywhere near the normal or therapeutic dosages these people are talking about. That is what I am saying ...not trying to step on any psychonauts toes here...I trip myself (in moderation) I truly don't give a fuck about this study, it means nothing in this mans case. Key is MODERATION. TMJ had his foot on the gas all the way down for too long. period.


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Look Deep Into Nature,and Then You Will Understand Everything Better.

Albert Einstein

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Re: fuck this shit...diagnosed with schizophrenia [Re: Thayendanegea]
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baltimark said:
Bill....
Quote:
This schizophrenia was definitely caused by my massive amounts of tripping. I never had any sign of schiz before tripping. sorry I didn't read your whole thread im in a rush at the moment u da man jvells I feel like I just went head  first into the darkness and im getting fucked for it. I wouldn't say I disrespected the trip in general, but I definitely gave it all I had in the tank




This is what some here need to hear....that these drugs, taken to the extreme can leave lasting damage....I'm really hopeful, that the one year lay-off does the trick, but you may need longer and I am confident you will recognize if you do. You pushed way further than anyone I have seen on this forum and it kicked your ass. That was a hard thing for you to admit, but you may be saving someone's life.

I truly wish you the best and  send my prayers for you.:peace::sunny:M




I definitely agree psychs ended up kicking my ass. That's why people should take users like JoeMolly seriously, the dude isn't just blowing smoke when he talks down about psychs. They can truly do harm when not respected to the fullest. I was just so caught up in finding MORE AND MORE about my mind til eventually it just snapped. But yeah, psychs definitely kicked my ass and I have n o problem admitting it.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: fuck this shit...diagnosed with schizophrenia [Re: Thayendanegea]
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baltimark said:
Dude....you don't know TMJ's history....He pushed things way beyond anywhere near the normal or therapeutic dosages these people are talking about. That is what I am saying ...not trying to step on any psychonauts toes here...I trip myself (in moderation) I truly don't give a fuck about this study, it means nothing in this mans case. Key is MODERATION. TMJ had his foot on the gas all the way down for too long. period.



Anecdotal evidence and speculation, weighed against peer reviewed studies.

Bill isn't the only one who's done massive quantities of psychedelics, but it is relatively uncommon for someone to show signs of schizophrenia. His issues could stem a number of places.

"Key is MODERATION. TMJ had his foot on the gas all the way down for too long. period."

Stop talking out of your ass

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Re: fuck this shit...diagnosed with schizophrenia [Re: Repertoire89]
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The studies are right that psychs don't cause mental health issues generally (unless seriously abused, a topic which the studies do not explore) however it is well known that almost any drug use that alters the natural balance of neurotransmitters can and will bring latent mental health issues to light.


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Sapere aude

"We cannot live for ourselves alone. Our lives are connected by a thousand invisible threads, and along these sympathetic fibers, our actions run as causes and return to us as results."


UBUNTU- I am because we are.



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Re: fuck this shit...diagnosed with schizophrenia [Re: JoieDeVivre]
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JoieDeVivre said:
The studies are right that psychs don't cause mental health issues generally (unless seriously abused, a topic which the studies do not explore) however it is well known that almost any drug use that alters the natural balance of neurotransmitters can and will bring latent mental health issues to light.



I'm not in disagreement with that idea, they're well known to act as a trigger.

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Re: fuck this shit...diagnosed with schizophrenia [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Edited by spore baby (12/19/14 10:12 PM)

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