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Offlinebenjaminlong
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Looking for a teacher
    #18879684 - 09/23/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Hello. 

I had a teacher once,  who was very expirienced in Wicca and the occult.  He lived a very hard life. He told me several times that he spent more time in the otherworld  than the pysical realm.  He is the one who recommended to me the books of Castaneda and taugt me about magic mushrooms (to be used for spiritual purposes). He passed away several months ago, and I lost my only reliable teacher,  and friend.  I have failed to find a teacher like him,  who was not "fluffy bunny".

is there anyone here knowledgable in such things?


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: benjaminlong]
    #18879709 - 09/23/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)



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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: benjaminlong]
    #18879733 - 09/23/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Real men have direction in their lives, role models are important, everyone can teach us something


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: tarzan92]
    #18879745 - 09/23/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Every one has a direction in their life.  We all tend to think ours is the right/good one and judge others accordingly.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: Icelander]
    #18879863 - 09/23/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thats why its fundemental for everyone to surrender to a higher understanding, so that no man should think more highly of himself then he is


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: tarzan92]
    #18879894 - 09/23/13 10:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: And each person thinks they know what that higher understanding is.  It's the same ol crap in a different cloak.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: tarzan92]
    #18879903 - 09/23/13 10:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Try craigslist classifieds OP, I guarantee you get some interesting responses if nothing else. You could then post them here for the amusement of the masses!


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: benjaminlong]
    #18880073 - 09/23/13 10:54 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

what exactly do you want to learn?


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: Chronic7]
    #18880163 - 09/23/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The Chronic said:
what exactly do you want to learn?




Astral projection. I also have an interest in Shamanism.  The occult in general.


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: benjaminlong]
    #18880165 - 09/23/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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benjaminlong said:
Hello. 

I had a teacher once,  who was very expirienced in Wicca and the occult.  He lived a very hard life. He told me several times that he spent more time in the otherworld  than the pysical realm.  He is the one who recommended to me the books of Castaneda and taugt me about magic mushrooms (to be used for spiritual purposes). He passed away several months ago, and I lost my only reliable teacher,  and friend.  I have failed to find a teacher like him,  who was not "fluffy bunny".

is there anyone here knowledgable in such things?



I like this Tibetan Lama Lho Ontul - he escapes with the Tibetan diaspora and watched 200,000 people die and he is a really firm straight Buddhist lama.  He's about it right now. Maybe Namkhai Norbu. Maybe Bearheart - Cree Indian if he is teaching still. And I like Amritanandaji and Amma. There's more but those are the best right now. For Tantra per se. And Anandamamima and Satyyananda


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: eve69]
    #18880193 - 09/23/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Everything around you is your teacher when you're ready

lucid dreaming works best when not stressed, fasting/drug free, at ease with life, in quiet environment, laying down on the back IMO
you can google it too, many methods for doing it, but they're no substitute for the mentioned - only extensions


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: lessismore]
    #18880227 - 09/23/13 11:36 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

read the famous book 'Creative Dreaming.' Arto of Shamanism, Avaduti Gita, Willie Nelson's autobio.

eat a steak


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: benjaminlong]
    #18880296 - 09/23/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

maybe read some books / websites / etc about different spiritual paths / systems / etc in order to refine your search more, find out what resonates with you and then it will become much easier to find a guide within that system / style. and making aspirations / prayers to meet with spiritual guides and friends i hear is quite a positive thing to do too. but research and refine your search i think, maybe ? :smile:


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: benjaminlong]
    #18880762 - 09/23/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

It's said that when you are ready the teacher appears. I think that is the case.


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: NastyDHL]
    #18880952 - 09/23/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder how many people have been suckered by that one?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: benjaminlong]
    #18881299 - 09/23/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

" In order to be able to decide if  the prophet is telling the truth or lying, we shall have to investigate the mystical experience for ourselves. This can be done in two ways: from the outside, by studying the biographies and writings of  the saints; and from the inside, by following the instructions they have given us." — Christopher Isherwood, Vedanta for The Western World


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That flows to fit whatever form it finds:
Through night or day, cathedral or the cave
We pass forever, craving form that binds."

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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: benjaminlong]
    #18882545 - 09/23/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

benjaminlong said:
Quote:

The Chronic said:
what exactly do you want to learn?




Astral projection. I also have an interest in Shamanism.  The occult in general.




Astral projection happens to some people sometimes. I had only one profound experience and that was in 1972. But such experiences do not demonstrate your True Nature, just another 'sheath' a bit more subtle (hence subtle body) than the physical sheath. A prolonged interest in form, howsoever subtle, is not going to liberate your mind from its false identification to forms as some 'higher' reality. It may have some application, but even a real sorcerer (versus the fictional Don Juan Matus) like the late Pablo Amaringo, abandoned that path. It caused harm to himself and others, but he spoke at length at a lecture through translator Edwardo Luna, about the 'purple effluvium' that carried one's 'intent.' Casteneda popularized and glamorized his brand of sorcery, but in reality, it is fascinating, but a spiritual dead end. Aleister Crowley probably realized this himself, and refused to teach his young secretary, Israel Regardie how to practice magick.

If you go looking for someone to teach you occultism, it won't be out of the goodness of their heart, because occultism generally deals with the spheres of Yesod-Hod-Netzach - the astral triangle, which is located below the heart, NOT the spheres of Geburah-Tiphereth-Chesed - the ethical triangle, which includes the heart. Whatever occult teacher you find will have a manipulative agenda, and your may  become victim to a 'psychic vampire.'


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: Icelander]
    #18882592 - 09/23/13 09:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
:lol: And each person thinks they know what that higher understanding is.  It's the same ol crap in a different cloak.




What makes you different?


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #18882677 - 09/23/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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MarkostheGnostic said:
Quote:

benjaminlong said:
Quote:

The Chronic said:
what exactly do you want to learn?




Astral projection. I also have an interest in Shamanism.  The occult in general.




Astral projection happens to some people sometimes. I had only one profound experience and that was in 1972. But such experiences do not demonstrate your True Nature, just another 'sheath' a bit more subtle (hence subtle body) than the physical sheath. A prolonged interest in form, howsoever subtle, is not going to liberate your mind from its false identification to forms as some 'higher' reality. It may have some application, but even a real sorcerer (versus the fictional Don Juan Matus) like the late Pablo Amaringo, abandoned that path. It caused harm to himself and others, but he spoke at length at a lecture through translator Edwardo Luna, about the 'purple effluvium' that carried one's 'intent.' Casteneda popularized and glamorized his brand of sorcery, but in reality, it is fascinating, but a spiritual dead end. Aleister Crowley probably realized this himself, and refused to teach his young secretary, Israel Regardie how to practice magick.

If you go looking for someone to teach you occultism, it won't be out of the goodness of their heart, because occultism generally deals with the spheres of Yesod-Hod-Netzach - the astral triangle, which is located below the heart, NOT the spheres of Geburah-Tiphereth-Chesed - the ethical triangle, which includes the heart. Whatever occult teacher you find will have a manipulative agenda, and your may  become victim to a 'psychic vampire.'




Interesting. I had never heard about the spheres of Yesod-Hod-Netzach or Geburah-Tiphereth-Chesed. Where can I learn more about these spheres?

And I am assuming that this explains why the Bible warns that sorcerers will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Is sorcery similar to or different from the pursuit of Siddhis or yogic powers which is considered ill advised by Hindus?


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Re: Looking for a teacher [Re: tribesman]
    #18882702 - 09/23/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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tribesman said:
" In order to be able to decide if  the prophet is telling the truth or lying, we shall have to investigate the mystical experience for ourselves. This can be done in two ways: from the outside, by studying the biographies and writings of  the saints; and from the inside, by following the instructions they have given us." — Christopher Isherwood, Vedanta for The Western World




Jesus suggests another way. By their fruits you will know them, he says. A good tree can only bare good fruit and a rotten tree only bares rotten fruit.

Question for anyone who wishes to answer: What do you think Jesus meant by this? I mean how to tell what kind of fruit someone produces?

I think for a person you know well, it shouldn't be too difficult to look at their life and how they treat you and others to see if they have good will and compassion. But how do you tell regarding prophets you don't know personally or who may no longer even be alive?


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